Coupling rods are missing! (Report)

Hello everyone,

Michael II, you were right!

I went to the workshop today because they wanted to install the ordered clutch switch *grins*, and I happened to get assigned to the other master, who apparently is a bit less experienced (even though he had told absolute nonsense about the LLK issue at the time, like "the turbo only spins faster when the engine spins faster").

It turned out that I was able to do it, and after my self-experiment, he said that it would never be the switch, that it was the clutch cable. After I clarified with him that the car has a hydraulic system, he agreed with the version of either the Geberzylinder or the pedal assembly.

Well... and then it was the plunger. It's brand new, and nothing is creaking anymore, hopefully it will last a long time.

However, just before the workshop, I decided to try it again, because now that I'm so suspicious, I immediately tested it on the street right in front – and we had already said here that this would be a good test for the correct installation of the switch. And... Bingo - The cruise control stopped working.

The master stared at me in horror, wondering what the cruise control had to do with the clutch, and after the suggestion that it could be deactivated with the clutch, he sent his mechanic back, but with the comment "We weren't even working on that switch...:"

20 minutes later, everything

If I look at the assembly diagram, I can easily imagine that you have to disassemble quite a bit (perhaps even the switch) before you can change the cylinder...

Best regards,

Jan, who can now couple smoothly again

Hi Jan

I've also experienced several instances of slipping clutch cables, and I know what it feels like when a mechanism becomes jerky (and increasingly jerky) only when under load.

The fact that people in a professional workshop (who presumably have more experience than amateurs like us) come to the conclusion that it could be a switch with minimal operating force, shows that their technical understanding and intuition must be practically non-existent.
How on earth did these kinds of conifers (or what are they called ) even manage to get into this profession

Oops, I forgot: we're talking about Germany, where memorization, crawling, and bluffing guarantee success and make any practical talent unnecessary

Hi Ulf,

Your description is very accurate

There are two masters, an old one and a young one. As the reader will surely guess, I was, of course, dealing with this problem with the young man who was the one who had actually brought the issue to my attention and who was still insisting on it even after I told him that I was a VW mechanic and that it could be the fuel pump.

Today, it was the older one... when I expressed my doubts that it was the switch, he slowly engaged the clutch, without any grinding, and then on the second attempt, he found exactly the point where it makes a REALLY loud noise (you can easily hear it over the engine noise while driving), and then he just said: "I don't believe it either."

He therefore seemed to still possess that feeling for mechanics, to remember that a heavily loaded part would be difficult to move.

Well... but he was also the one who said last week: The computer doesn't find any errors, your car is fine!

Overall, we must conclude that things are not as they once were, and not as they should be, when it comes to the qualifications of people. Basically, it's sad to experience this every day.

Things that are considered part of general knowledge often get forgotten, even by those who should know them...: I will never forget my two students who were puzzled because they couldn't see the clock pulses from the computer on the measuring device, even though it was connected correctly to the CPU pin. Unfortunately, they didn't know that the power supply also needs a return path!!! And that's just one example of what happens all the time!

Best regards,

Jan, who knows several diploma-level computer science graduates who have no idea about computers,

[Translating...]ja, das problem kenne ich...

beim auto sind wir momentan in einer unglaublich schnellen entwicklung.
einerseits fahren noch jede menge alte diesel rum, andererseits rollende computer (TDI).

jetzt passiert folgendes: die jungen leute kommen prima mit dem computer zurecht, können alle fehlercodes auswendig. haben aber keinen blassen dunst von der mechanik die der computer steuert oder gar einen überblick über das gesamte SYSTEM das dahintersteckt.

der alte meister kennt ladedruckregelung noch von druckdosen und schlauchwerk und tunt mit schraubendreher und wapu, blickt aber in der steuergerätewelt überhaupt nicht durch.

der übergang zwischen den beiden extremen ist fliessend, allerdings beobachte ich einen trend zur verdummung des nachwuchses (nicht nur im bereich KFZ).

mein top-autoschrauber hat ne freie werkstatt. bzw. er hat das ganze bei sich zu hause eingerichtet. hinterhofwerkstatt allererster güte. den meisten der verwöhnten autofahrer würde deren anblick wahrscheinlich dutzende stunden beim therapeuten verursachen.

aber wie sagt man so schön ? nie nach dem ersten eindruck bewerten...
mechanisch hat der's nämlich voll drauf. und die elektronische seite kommt auch nicht zu kurz. für gängige autos gibts entsprechende auslesegeräte (bzw. module), und demnächst wohl auch VAG-COM (seit er gesehen hat was damit geht). man muss sich eben nur auf dem laufenden halten. PC-mässig hat er schon gewachsenen IT-lern gezeigt wo's langgeht ....

hauptproblem bei der ganzen fehlersucherei: es macht sich keiner mehr die mühe das SYSTEM AUTO zu überdenken. es ist ja nun auch nicht so, dass jedes auto ein anders system wäre. die sache mit dem kupplungsschalter ist z.b. der überknaller. sowas hatte ein tempomat schon vor 20 jahren....
auch hier der hinweis: das ist nicht nur im bereich KFZ so. wenn ich sehe wie bei uns die azubis oder auch frische ing. sich anstellen....
erfahrung sammeln ist scheinbar aus der mode...

super beispiel: LMM beim TDI. es gab probleme, und nun ist für jedes problem das mit leistungsverlust oder schwarzrauch zu tun hat automatisch der LMM schuld.....heidernei...
mein meister guckt bei sowas zuerst mal die hardware durch. stichwort: alle schläuche drauf ? alle stecker fest ? alle verbindungen fest ?
man glaubt gar nicht wie oft sowas simples die fehlerursache ist, deren meldung per computer 'scheissendrexx regeldifferenz bei modul 0815' heerscharen von 'fachleuten' wild alle möglichen geber und sensoren tauschen lässt (nicht lustig, selbst miterlebt...fehlerursache: poröser schlauch...)

in diesem sinne

CU Gremlin

. . . very insightful and enjoyable to read

If the topic were to generate even more content, my suggestion would be that Rainer creates a permanent column for you

[Translating...]LOL

so nach der art 'hier ist dein schild' ?

neee...ich mach schon bewusst keinen kunden-aussendienst...
dazu hab ich die nerven nicht.

ist schon so schlimm genug: 'können sie mal schauen, da flackert eine rote lampe wenn ich um die kurve fahre'. ---
ARGH. 0,5l öl waren noch im opel 2.2l gussblock


und die kolumne würde dann auch mehr in den sektor steuerung- und antriebstechnik gehen

CU Gremlin

I completely agree with you, @gremlin. After I had lost all warranty guarantees (the year was over, unfortunately), I went to my usual repair shop (where I had always taken my Fias before – and never had any problems!), which is a converted barn. A normal person wouldn't even think of going there, one would think. The reactions from my acquaintances were also going there (with the old Fias, but with the new Golf???).
I have never been disappointed. The first person who actually understood and could follow my descriptions of errors, and what's even better: I'm still one of the less wealthy, going to places where the clientele consists of managers and lawyers, so it's just the most expensive stuff, and also a lot of older people....
I have already finished with the workshops, after many disappointments

greetings
eltipo
p.s. Oh, ja, er ist auch ein aktiver Rennfahrer, was irgendwie geholfen hat*GGG