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Post23-05-2012, 12:40    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

Hi.

"When I need to brake gently (e.g., going down a ramp in a parking garage), my rear brakes squeal quite loudly."
When switching from winter to summer tires, I was "messing around" with things from the outside, meaning I tried to do something somehow between the outer brake pads and the caliper.
It actually made things worse.

Now, thanks to the change, I know that this is the right place.

What do you think about this?
- Approach the EPB (Emergency Parking Brake).
- Gently squeeze the brake caliper together.
- Insert a piece of cloth between the pliers and the material.
- If necessary, use a cloth with some ceramic paste on it.
- Revert to EPB.

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Post23-05-2012, 13:19    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

I think it's more likely that I need to expand it, verschandeln it, break the edges, lubricate it, and then install it.

the better solution is, or, if necessary, replace it with a suitable alternative.

As far as I know, the blocks are covered with a plastic layer or plate on the outside, which is why lubrication wouldn't be effective in that area.
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Post23-05-2012, 14:02    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

Well, at least the "degreasing" resulted in "more squeak."

And I have to hurry, because it makes less noise/no noise when it's hot.

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Post23-05-2012, 15:58    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

Lubricate, do not degrease! icon_wink.gif
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Post24-06-2012, 12:37    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

Hello,

I've experienced the same problem with my colleague's vehicle; there's a Technical Service Bulletin (TPI) about it available from the dealerships.
It replaces the brake caliper carrier (or whatever you want to call it) with a new design.
The old mechanism somehow starts to vibrate, and then there's the loud squeaking icon_smile.gif.

Sure. Please provide the text you would like me to translate from German to English. I will only provide the translation, without any explanations.


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Post25-06-2012, 9:46    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

Do you have a TPI number for me?

Thank you.
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Post25-06-2012, 15:20    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

I'll ask about it for you, but I can't promise anything; it's been a couple of years already.

Sure. Please provide the text you would like me to translate from German to English. I will only provide the translation, without any explanations.


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Post25-06-2012, 15:43    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

Above all, the question of cost is always relevant.

Because if I have to pay for everything, I might as well just replace the toppings.
Then things should be quiet again.

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Post25-06-2012, 15:58    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

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Because if I have to pay for everything, I might as well just replace the linings.
Then things should be quiet again.


I would do it that way too -- and you have new linings icon_wink.gif.

Above all, I would replace the original equipment (OE) pads with a premium brand product.
The OE manufacturer primarily focuses on other components. It's not impossible that the standard brake pads are a (cheap) product sourced from another supplier.
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Post25-06-2012, 16:45    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

Is TRW cheap?
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Post25-06-2012, 19:44    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

dieselmartin wrote:
Is TRW cheap?


Unfortunately, it's not included in the price. It's a dealbreaker for me in my vehicle. I have no idea who manufactures these things. They used to be made by Lucas, I think.

Lucas KlÜtze habe ich ein paar Mal verbaut - NIE WIEDER!, wogegen Bremssättel von Lucas standfester als zB. ATE are/were.

Recently, my friend and I finally got rid of everything related to those brake pads. Since then, there's been no more rumbling or noise.
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Post25-06-2012, 21:13    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

I just checked again:

Everything is still in its original condition, with the TRW logo and the VW part number visible from the outside through the large holes in the Monte Carlo spokes.


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Recently, my friend (who owns a 3C BMR) and I finally got rid of everything related to those brake pads. Since then, there has been no more rumbling or noise.


And what did you put inside?

Okay, please provide the German text you would like me to translate into English. I will only provide the translation.
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Post25-06-2012, 21:27    Subject: Squeaky Brakes: Troubleshooting 3C Systems Quote

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And what did you put in there?
My own brand, which I've been using for ages (P...d). icon_lol.gif

Advantages: Braking performance -> consistent from start to finish, no issues with vibrations, durable like original equipment (OE) and affordable.

Disadvantage: Brake discs are not yet available with a coating for all vehicle types. A little more dust on the rims - I personally haven't experienced this.

My front brakes are now due for replacement after 120,000 km and 7 years. They were still sufficient for the technical inspection (TÜV).
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