Diagnosis via CAN, HEX-USB+CAN / MicroCAN

Hello,

There's news! Uwe Ross sent me a sample of the professional adapter for KKL+CAN that is currently under development.
This now also removes any obstacles to diagnosing newer vehicles such as the Touran, Golf5, etc., where most control units can only be accessed via the CAN bus.

Let's see how the initial tests go. If anyone in the Nuremberg area is interested in testing this product, please feel free to contact me.

Best regards, Rainer.

Hi Rainer,

What will that part cost?

Hi Marco,

"Sorry, I can't give you a price just yet..."
Currently, the adapter (prototype) is being loaned out for testing. If you are interested, please send me a private message or email!

Best regards, Rainer.

'The interface is so awesome! Even the ABS in my old Passat 35i with a 1Z engine, which often malfunctions with the MAX232 adapter and requires lowering the baud rate to diagnose, works flawlessly with this. It's also impressive how quickly the connection is established!'

@uwe@rosstech
When do you think the KKL-CAN interface will be available in Germany?

When do you think the KKL-CAN interface will be available in Germany?

I'm unable to provide a good answer because dealers in Germany usually don't order their interfaces through us, and the +CAN interfaces are not yet available in large quantities. It should get better next month.

However, when using connections on port K, the CAN interface functions exactly the same as our HEX-USB (or serial HEX-COM). So, when it comes to vehicles that don't use the CAN bus, a standard HEX interface (which we've had in our product line since the end of 2002) is just as fast and reliable.

However, anyone who has already purchased a valid VAG-COM license (and can prove it) can also purchase interface upgrades from us. For example, a HEX-COM interface as an upgrade costs $179, or approximately 152 euros. With CAN support, the price increases by approximately $50 (42 euros).

-Uwe-

hi,
CAN bus is already on its way out.
What follows is TTP. Time-triggered protocol.
Just for the sake of it.
greetings

Hi,

May I ask for a source?

IMO, besides DC, no one has seriously worked with TTP, and even they wanted to switch to ByteFlight/FlexRay... and now they are continuing with CAN.

Best regards,

Jan.

hi,
CAN bus is already on its way out.
What follows is TTP. Time-triggered protocol.
Just for the sake of it.
greetings

The specific data buses used internally within a car are not relevant. For example, almost all VW/Audi models since 2000 have internal CAN buses, but diagnostics have been performed via the K-line up until now.

'Diagnosis via CAN is a worldwide standard. Starting with the model year 2008, it is even mandatory for generic OBD purposes.' 'So, diagnosis via CAN is the future!'

-Uwe-

What @PowerSound3L is writing likely has more to do with the future control of electrical components in vehicles. All devices will now be connected using a single serial two-wire connection.

'For some time now, several manufacturers have been working on connecting the control of all electrical devices (including lights) through a central protocol, so that they can be connected with only power (+ & ground) and a single control line.'

However, this requires that each device has a logic implemented that automatically detects when it should be turned on or off.

However, the external diagnostics will continue to be based on the CAN protocol.

Professional systems with CAN bus support are now available! HEX-USB+CAN HEX-V2:



VCDS Interface Upgradehttp://shop.dieselschrauber.de/product_info.php/products_id/46{MARKER}

This enables the diagnosis of control units in the following new vehicle models: Audi A3 & A8 (manufactured from 2004), Audi A6, Skoda Octavia, Seat Altea (from model year 2005), Golf V, and Touran.

Best regards, Rainer.http://shop.dieselschrauber.de/product_info.php/products_id/329

Very silly question:

I also have the option of diagnostics via CAN, in addition to the K-line, on a brand new Fiesta (Ford ). What happens if I buy the device, and what software will it work with?

Regards,
Georg.

Hi Georg,

I think things look bleak for Ford, because you would first need software that can also address the CAN functions of the adapter.
Perhaps Uwe (Ross) knows more about this.

Best regards, Rainer.

Sorry for the probably silly question, but does that mean the professional adapter...?

* Only applies to new model lines.

or

* Both older models (e.g., my Bora from 2000) and newer models can (use a connection with two plugs or similar).

Best regards.
herwig

Rainer K. wrote:

Professional systems with CAN-Bus support are now available for delivery! Bitte gib den Text an, den du übersetzt haben möchtest. With this, there are no more obstacles to the diagnosis of control units in the new Audi A3 & A8 models manufactured from 2004, Audi A6, Skoda Octavia, Seat Altea from the 2005 model year, Golf V, and Touran.

...and possibly other ("older") models, such as the Polo 9N (-> air conditioning):
Okay, I'm ready. Please provide the German text you want me to translate.

Hello,

The HEX-USB+CAN supports CAN, which is an additional feature in addition to K- and L-line support.

Best regards, Rainer.