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08-12-2006, 10:55 Subject: Adjusting Tiptronic shift points? |
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Hello everyone,
Can the shift points of a Tiptronic transmission be reprogrammed? For example, that the gear shift now occurs at a lower engine speed than before? |
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10-12-2006, 23:06 Subject: Adjusting Tiptronic shift points? |
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Your A6 should have the ZF transmission. You can switch it to sport mode, for example. On your Audi, this should be possible via a button on the gear lever. On my Passat, it can only be done by reprogramming the control unit. Then the TT will shift up more quickly, or it won't stay in the same gear for as long when you're coasting after accelerating.
However, this makes driving significantly less harmonious, and often the faster upshifting is problematic because, especially in stop-and-go traffic, the transmission constantly shifts back and forth. If you want precise shift points tailored to your preferences, you need to use a switch or drive in "tip" mode. VW Golf III TDI Avenue, MKB 1Z, EZ96
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10-12-2006, 23:13 Subject: Adjusting Tiptronic shift points? |
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Hi,
Sure, I have the S-mode enabled on the Tiptronic. I just assumed that it would shift at a higher RPM (sportier driving = higher RPMs = later shifting). What I meant was the opposite of that  . |
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11-12-2006, 15:10 Subject: Adjusting Tiptronic shift points? |
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Well, you're right about that. The Tiptronic transmission only shifts up to a higher gear after a certain RPM range. Let's say, above 2000 RPM. The thing is, the Tiptronic will initially maintain that reached 2000 RPM when driving at a constant speed. So, in third gear at 50 km/h, the engine will be running at 2000 RPM. Then the Tiptronic only shifts up after a few seconds, or after a noticeable delay.
With the sport mode, it's now possible to achieve near-instant upshifts with the Tiptronic transmission; it doesn't wait as long to shift up when driving at a constant speed.
It's not possible to change the shift points of the Tiptronic, for example, to have it shift at 1500 rpm instead of 2000 rpm, at least not using standard onboard settings. In the US, there are apparently specialists who can reprogram the control unit. However, I don't know if it's worth it, or how compatible it is with the transmission's durability. The thing is, a certain amount of torque needs to be present for the TT to be able to shift gears at all. VW Golf III TDI Avenue, MKB 1Z, EZ96
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11-12-2006, 16:36 Subject: Adjusting Tiptronic shift points? |
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Please provide us with a diagnostic report. |
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12-12-2006, 14:56 Subject: Adjusting Tiptronic shift points? |
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Does your question imply that the adjustment of the switching points might be possible through adaptation? VW Golf III TDI Avenue, MKB 1Z, EZ96
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12-12-2006, 14:59 Subject: Adjusting Tiptronic shift points? |
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From my question, you can tell that I would like to review a diagnostic report before I make any specific comments. |
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13-12-2006, 10:49 Subject: Adjusting Tiptronic shift points? |
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Okay, I can post something about my Tiptronic because I'm really interested in it. I am always interested in learning new things about the TT.
I have a full version of VAGCOM with a HEX-USB interface.
What exactly should I log or check in the transmission control unit (TCU) for that?
I would then post a log. VW Golf III TDI Avenue, MKB 1Z, EZ96
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13-12-2006, 12:49 Subject: Adjusting Tiptronic shift points? |
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Diagnosis report/automatic scan is sufficient. |
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22-12-2006, 10:30 Subject: Adjusting Tiptronic shift points? |
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Okay, here's the excerpt from the Autoscan.
I only picked up the car from the workshop the day before yesterday, and I immediately took the opportunity to clear all the error codes. I also posted about the MSTG (presumably a specific topic or law) in case it might still be of interest.
[code]
Address 01: Engine
Part No: 8D0 907 558 E
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT MOTR AT D02
Coding: 04051
Shop #: WSC 05314
Address 02: Automatic Transmission.
Part No: 8D0 927 156 BK
Component: AG5 01V 1.8l 5VT RdW D70
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
Unfortunately, it seems that the mileage cannot be determined from the control unit  of my car. VW Golf III TDI Avenue, MKB 1Z, EZ96
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22-12-2006, 11:06 Subject: Adjusting Tiptronic? |
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Hello everyone,
"I'm also very interested in that. I have an older ZF automatic transmission, model AG5 01V RDW 9419 (from a 1999 A6 with the AFB engine). In "D" mode, the automatic transmission shifts up in the lower gears much too late (it roars like a lion, hence the "tractor" sound), around 2500 RPM, when an earlier upshift would be possible. However, if I switch to Tiptronic mode, I can select the next gear as low as 1600 RPM." Supposedly, the TT software is supposed to be able to learn, but I haven't noticed much of that myself.
When I compare the A6 to our A3 2.0 TDI with DSG, the A6 shifts gears much earlier (at 1400 RPM).
as is typical for a diesel engine with high torque.
What's also annoying is the shifting between gears, specifically between second and third.
"The TT is enabled, but it's not displaying."
Is there perhaps an update from Audi or ZF? How can I find out?
Best regards, Rainerfrank. |
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