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This adapter allows you to access more or less important information from the engine management system of all vehicles in the Volkswagen Group (Audi, Bentley, Seat, Skoda, and VW) from around 1993. For current vehicles, diagnostic software for service reset is also necessary. This can be achieved with an adapter (diagnostic system) for the PC's USB/serial interface, then you only need an inexpensive laptop/notebook and the corresponding software. This is especially interesting for smaller workshops and hobbyists, as without the ability to access the on-board diagnostics, troubleshooting complex modern engine electronics quickly becomes a guessing game, although reading the error memory could quickly provide clarity. For older vehicles, a diagnostic adapter with KKL (K-Line) is sufficient, and the instructions for this are included. The list attached under the "HEX-USB Diagnosis" section lists such vehicles, including professional-grade diagnostic systems.
The latest VCDS software version that works with self-built interfaces (e.g., our B1 or U1 kit) is the VCDS-Lite, which can be manually unlocked by Ross-Tech, and which is also further developed (label files, Autoscan, plugins where possible).
The same applies to the dieselschrauber OBD2 software KOBD2Check (dongle function): https://shop.dieselschrauber.org/obd2-diagnose-kit-p-321.php
Repair manuals for using the diagnostic tools can be purchased, among other places, directly from VW (Erwin). You can find the most common procedures on the VCDS, information on the procedure, repair manuals in an overview.
Now, let's talk about the adapter problem â what should you keep in mind when building one yourself? Since the vehicle-side diagnostic signals are not compatible with those on the COM-port/USB-port of the computer, not only VCDS-Lite, but also an adapter is required for communication. Other details of the standard circuit can also cause problems:
In principle, adapters without galvanic isolation of the circuits from the PC and car can also be used instead of adapters with optocouplers. These are generally superior to adapters with optocouplers in terms of their transmission properties, provided that the circuit design is appropriate.
Those who want the greatest possible security in such cases should still use an adapter with galvanic isolation of the PC and car circuits.
To minimize problems associated with optocouplers, the
If the diagnosis is only to be carried out on vehicles without a confirmed L-Line, the components R 1 to 4, VR 1, OK 1, LED 1 and T 1 can be omitted during the assembly of the adapter.
Trimmer Adjustment
If the adapter behaves differently, the following functions can be checked at the workbench. A power source of approximately 12 volts, a voltmeter, and a set of measuring cables with crocodile clips - or alternatively, a few pieces of wire and a soldering iron to create the connections are required. All measured voltages refer to the vehicle's ground.
Preparation:
Tests (Measure voltages against ground, the voltages to be supplied must also be measured against ground!):
Christian has designed the PCB layout for the above schematic, thank you!
Adapter test software from Andreas (AST) and user manual from Ulf available for download.
For vehicles with control units split into 2 K-lines, the following design is available.
A properly configured 2.4 adapter is usually sufficient for a stable connection based on previous experiences.
The "Worst-Case-Design" 4.0
The principle of protection diodes D11 to D16 can also be applied to other adapters. If a simple, plug-and-play adapter is required, for example, to facilitate communication in critical combinations of vehicle, diagnostic PC, and software through minimal signal delays and distortions, a circuit like this can be used for a diagnostic adapter without galvanic isolation and without MAX232. It can operate stably up to approximately 500 KB, depending on the connected cable capacities and the properties of the COM port. LED 1 displays the data sent to the vehicle, LED 2 displays the received data, LED 3 controls the L-Line, LED 4 indicates whether the operating voltage is sufficient (turns off below 8 volts), and LED 5 and 6 display interference voltages between the vehicle and the PC, which can affect the communication.
For vehicles without an L-Line, D 8, LED 3, T 4 and R 10 to 12 can be omitted.
For owners of older Optocoupler Adapter versions from Ulf... [color=red][size=16][u]Common Problems (Authors: Ulf, Rainer) Unfortunately, the data exchange between PC and vehicle is so complex due to the involved hardware and software that the first attempts with VCDS-Lite are often described as "plug and pray" (= plug in and hope). :-(( [b]"I'm not getting any connection at all!" The most common causes are: 1. Adapter, including the connecting cable, are incorrectly designed / assembled / defective 2. Electrical data of the adapter and PC interface do not match. This can happen relatively easily due to the wide range of properties of COM ports, especially when adapters with optocouplers are used, which are usually not overly tolerant of COM port data. Solutions include adapters with appropriate adjustment options, such as the versions 1.1, 2.4, and 4.0 shown here. 3. Errors on the side panel (ignition not switched on, cable breaks in the area of the diagnostic connector, etc.) 4. Disturbed PC software configuration (see No. 8) 5. PC defective / VCDS-Lite installation faulty. :cry: "I can't address all STGe / only some functions work for me, VCDS-Lite constantly displays various error messages." :cry: This can mainly be caused by the following: 6. Significant bit length errors in the adapter hinder communication, primarily with STGen at higher baud rates: Construction or adjustment errors in the adapter, most likely to occur in circuits with optocouplers. 7. The logic-0 detection threshold on the adapter side is below the logic-0 output level of the "silent" STGe, which often (and still ISO-compliant!) provide 1 to 1.5 volts instead of the ideal value of 0 volts: Construction or adjustment errors of the adapter; ideally, logic 0 should be detected as long as the K-Line voltage is less than half the main power supply voltage. Attempt to rectify the problem (if the actual adapter circuit cannot be corrected): 1 to approximately 4 1N4002 or similar diodes in series in the direction of current flow in the ground line to the OBD connector (pin 4) can solve the problem, with some luck. 8. The overall PC software configuration interferes with the VCDS-Lite dialog. Solution: close/delete as many running programs as possible / verschandeln up autorun files. If necessary, try a PC with a different software configuration; with similar hardware, it is possible to pinpoint the causes more reliably in the software area. Further information can be found on Uwe Ross's homepage. 9. The data format of older STGe (especially from 1Z engines) does not match the version of VCDS-Lite being used. Jörg has found a solution to this: It can help to gradually reduce the value for 'Blk Int' in the program options. For the general settings of 'Char Int' and 'KW2 Delay': reducing these two values can help on slower computers, while increasing them can be helpful on faster ones. Thanks Jörg!:D :cry: "I'm getting inconsistent texts when I read STG error codes!" [b]Think about it and make sure you have a proper unlock for your VAG-COM/VCDS-Lite version! This also applies to (www-)auctions, flea markets, etc., where poorly constructed adapters from private/unknown manufacturers are apparently sold even more carelessly than in regular trade :evil: If an adapter is recognized by VCDS-Lite, or if a check using the adapter test software provided here yields a positive result, then only adapter problems numbered 1 (excluding the cable and connectors supplied with the vehicle!), 2, and 6 can be largely ruled out. Error number 7 can still occur, especially when using the widely used optocoupler minimal circuit and related designs, which may also be found in various aftermarket adapters. Furthermore, items 6 and 7 can also vary depending on the voltage, ambient temperatures, etc. (i.e., they are quite unpredictable). Angesichts dieser GrĂŒnde sollte der Kauf von vorgefertigten Adaptern unbekannter Hersteller / Anbieter / Konstruktion besonders sorgfĂ€ltig ĂŒberlegt werden. Wenn von Anfang an eine hohe ZuverlĂ€ssigkeit gewĂŒnscht ist, sollten z.B. die hier beschriebenen bzw. verlinkten Schaltungen bevorzugt werden (mit Ausnahme der Minimal-Designs), da auch im hierigen Forum oft UnterstĂŒtzung möglich ist bzw. diverse Probleme bereits behandelt wurden und ĂŒber die Suchfunktion recherchiert werden können. However: Imitations errors and defects can occur in any individual component, and therefore create a nearly insurmountable variety of error patterns. If, in addition, there are no measuring instruments and/or the consultant lacks basic electronic understanding, then meaningful remote diagnosis is practically impossible! [b]For training purposes, lessons, or professional work on the powertrain, the OBD2 diagnostic software KOBD2Check is ideal, available in the shop: https://shop.dieselschrauber.org/rks-can-can-bus-interface-c-24.php
Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Rainer Kaufmann - dieselschrauber VCDS Shop Zuletzt bearbeitet am 24-10-2021, 17:56, insgesamt 40-mal bearbeitet. |
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