Rubbelnde Bremse durch Sportbremsscheibe (Zimmermann)? | Posts 16+

ObenbeiMutti wrote:

@BM.. No, it wasn't sold as OEM, but it was of the same quality as OEM. OEM quality - not an OEM part!

I've interpreted it correctly, but I haven't seen it either.

Or is someone perhaps claiming that Ferodo is equivalent to VAG OEM quality?

Okay, people, be honest with me: what's the actual difference between buying ATE brake parts from a general retailer versus buying them from VAG? At a general retailer, I pay €35 for a set of brake pads, while the exact same pads cost around €100 at VAG. Apart from the packaging, the pads are always the same. The price, however, is not. When you buy something, you should pay attention to what you're buying. If you buy cheap, generic stuff and then wonder why it's not good, then you kind of have yourself to blame. I've only been buying ATE brakes for years now, and that's that. I don't want to have to replace a set of brake pads every 15,000 km; that would mean replacing two pads per year. The ATE ones last almost two years.

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Honestly, people, where exactly is the difference whether I buy ATE brake parts from a local store or from VAG?

The text didn't mention ATE, but rather the scrap metal that the company with the three-letter abbreviation often sells to people as OE (Original Equipment) quality.

Bastelfred wrote:

Honestly, people, where exactly is the difference whether I buy ATE brake parts from a local store or from VAG?

I've only been buying ATE brakes for years, and that's good enough for me. I don't want to have to replace a set of brake pads every 15,000 km; that would be 2 sets per year. The ones from ATE last almost 2 years.}
Hello,
These are just suggestions and experiences with various manufacturers and partners.
The requirements are diverse, and the original equipment (OE) brake manufacturer must meet all of them while also being cost-effective in order to be included in the original equipment.
It's not just about the durability (2-year warranty).
I've mentioned this before, but ATE doesn't manufacture "stones" at all, as far as I know!
The manufacturer guarantees universal suitability and a minimum requirement for both the "Raser" and the "5000 km Opa" models.
Of course, the manufacturer still has room for improvement in terms of friction coefficient and wear resistance, given that those were development goals.
When it comes to hole punching/slotting, factors like edge cracking, durability, and noise are also important. See Zimmermann, Sandler, Sebro, ATE Powerdisk, and others.
Everyone must (and can) find the most cost-effective solution that meets their needs, and they will inevitably learn from their mistakes along the way.
The art of the salesperson is to sell each customer what they perceive to be the "right" thing, even when the customer themselves isn't entirely sure what they want (ideally, something as desirable as a "Eiermilchwollsau" and preferably for free).
It's great that some people swear by your product, but it simply means they've found the right solution for their needs – and others can learn from that without having to pay.
derteileklaus

Hello fellow enthusiasts,

Attached is a small update, or perhaps even the final solution, to my 'scratching problem.'
After the scraping caused by new brake discs, new pads, and the experimental leveling of the mounting surface (using a dial indicator and a flexible grinder with a sanding disc – but don't worry, I only removed a maximum of 2/100 mm ), which practically didn't improve anything, I moved on to the next item on the agenda, which means: I ignored the scraping...

Since my beloved A4 is slowly entering its 'middle age' with 180,000 km and almost 11 years, I've given it some TLC, including new tires (I've gone through four sets so far) and new shock absorbers for the front and rear.

And behold: The scratching is gone .

Most likely, the winter and summer tires had become 'square' due to the worn-out shock absorbers.

Since I replaced the shock absorbers in stages (first the rear ones, then used the car, and a week later the front ones), I was able to determine that the rear shock absorbers were likely much more worn out, because the driving behavior only improved slightly with the addition of new front shock absorbers.

Best regards, Kassen.

... I buy my electronic parts from this vendor 99% of the time and I am extremely satisfied.
(http://www.governor.de/index.asp)

If the "recommendation" is unwanted, discard it.

So far, all the parts have been significantly cheaper than those from VW, and the quality is the same!
I believe they distribute their products throughout Europe.



Sven.