ASZ-Upgrade auf EU4 "grün ohne DPF"? | Beiträge 16+

[quote="ulf"]
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Wow: +100 kg swing mass due to 15 kg more base weight?
Are the 1360 kg swing mass figures from the KBA overview (for ASZ / BLT / BPX / BUK) also included in the standard levels (?), or how are they calculated?
Is there a swing mass standard level table for cars that allows you to calculate the swing mass from the real weight?
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Yes, I'm wondering where they get these weights during the sample testing, or what kind of vehicles they're using.


But I need to stop you again.

BLK and BUK use an electric DK, and both have a water-cooled, regulated AGR. For you, the BLT conversion would be the only option. That's the only one that exists in the Polo.
However, I'm not entirely sure about the engine control unit configuration for both engines. They could be EDC16! This could be the death knell for your project if they need to be upgraded.

[quote="Bertil"]

I need to slow you down one more time.
BLK and BUK use an electric DK,[/quote]
akte tells me: AGR unit from BUK = 038131501AT = the same part as, for example, with G4 ASZ and ARL
The BLT has the same AGR with DK as the AXR.

[quote]and both have a water-cooled, regulated AGR.[/quote]
. . The same as, for example, G4 ASZ automatic and (again) ARL. Should be retrofittable with reasonable effort.

[quote] For you, the BLT conversion would be the only option. That's the only one available in the Polo.[/quote]
The Ibiza 6L is essentially the same as the sister model... which regulation should definitely prohibit reconstructing the BUK in the 9N?
Regarding both engines, I'm not entirely sure about the control unit configuration. They could be EDC16s! This could then be the death knell for your project if they need to be upgraded.
BLT and BUK definitely still have the EDC15, even with the same data base as my MSG 019LA. I could also get the emission-related parts of the BUK software into my MSG...

[quote="ulf"]...
akte tells me: AGR unit from BUK = 038131501AT = the same part as, for example, with G4 ASZ and ARL
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My OE list shows AXR/BLT.
The data for the BUK is very inconsistent. It has both PDEs and PPDs, and also 16 valves in the ET list. So, I'm relying on nothing. I'm only comparing it to the BLT, as I have reliable data for that. And it was in the Polo.
[quote]The BLT has the same AGR as the AXR.
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Yes, definitely.

[quote]The Ibiza 6L is essentially the same model as the AXR... which regulation should definitely prohibit reconstructing the BUK in the 9N?
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Incorrect key numbers and the wrong base. :twisted:

That's when your problems started. (

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BLT and BUK definitely still have the EDC15, even with the same data base as my MSG 019LA.
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That makes things easier.

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I could already get the emission-relevant parts of the BUK software into my MSG . . . [/quote]
I have always assumed that...

But this renovation is not for "everyone". It certainly isn't "easy".
My only concern is regarding the documentation of the STG change. There could be some stress during the individual acceptance.

[quote="Bertil"]...
The wrong key numbers and the wrong base.
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It's amazing that a Golf with the AXR (EU4) engine has the same key number as a Golf with the ATD (EU3) engine!

The only difference is the emissions key. :O

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Ulf,

how about the pistons with the different engines?

I can imagine that due to the changed injection geometry of the PD1.1, the pistons are also different.
If that's the case, then your project would become extremely complex.
Maybe this will help :wink:

ASZ + ARL + BLT - Volume of the combustion chamber cavity 24.60 cm³
AJM + AUY - Volume of the combustion chamber cavity 23.60 cm³
AXR + ATD - Volume of the combustion chamber cavity 22.85 cm³

[quote="Bertil"][quote="ulf"]...akte erzählt mir: AGR-Einheit vom BUK = 038131501AT = das same part as, for example, with G4 ASZ and ARL [/quote]
My OE list says AXR/BLT.
The data for the BUK is very inconsistent. It has both PDEs and PPDs, and also 16 valves in the ET list. So, I'm relying on nothing. I'm only comparing it to the BLT, as I have reliable data for that. And it was in the Polo.
I checked a "source forum"
http://www.ibiza-forum.de/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=70369
and, among other things, received the attached picture. This confirms the information, and therefore, I initially consider this information to be correct.
[quote]The Ibiza 6L is essentially the sister model... which regulation should definitely prohibit reconstructing the BUK in the 9N?
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Incorrect key numbers and the wrong base.
That's when you suddenly had your problems.
And what solutions do you see (now)?
After all, some companies, for example, are converting the Polo TDI to a 1.8T engine and doing it correctly...

[quote="ulf"]...
And what possibilities do you see (now) for their solution?
After all, some companies, for example, are converting the Polo TDI to a 1.8T engine and doing everything correctly... [/quote]
Interestingly, some companies, for example, convert the Polo TDI to a 1.8T engine and ensure everything is "correctly" installed.
:roll:

I know a lot of people who do this, but when I say "correctly entered," I mean something different.
Because, the key numbers cannot be changed. That's just the way it is. Unfortunately, this is not always followed, and I would call that anything but "correctly entered."

And even if he changes the TSN. What should the TÜV person enter if it doesn't exist in your car? Then, the TSN will be entered as 000, and you're the one who's responsible. Goodbye to the green sticker.

For imported vehicles that have been entered with TSN 000, the owner must obtain a certificate from the manufacturer. This proves their compliance with the ABE. This is invalid for a combination that was not originally available.

What do you want? The 'poor' Peer Steinbrück doesn't even know how to extract money from his own people with every nonsense, and you come up with such anti-government, heretical, and highly revolutionary plans. :lol:

No, that's not how it works. -> New car and new taxes are in demand.

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The key numbers must not be changed. That's just how it is. Unfortunately, this is not always observed, and I consider this anything but "correct."

And even if he changes the TSN. What should the TÜV person enter if this combination doesn't exist in your car? Then, the TSN will be entered as 000, and you'll be responsible. Goodbye with the green sticker.

For imported vehicles with TSN 000, the owner must obtain a certificate from the manufacturer to prove their compliance. This invalidates the combination that was not originally included.
So, does the construction monopoly (including regulatory approvals) lie with the major car manufacturers?

Why are they "equal" to a private individual? There are also no TSN approvals for a new design, such as the Golf 6.

[quote="ulf"]...
So, does the construction monopoly (including legally required approvals) lie with the major car manufacturers?
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No, why?
Register yourself as a vehicle manufacturer. This comes with many hurdles and obligations.
You can also register your "homemade" vehicle. However, you will also be responsible for all problems related to the vehicle. This includes obtaining emission reports and other approvals. Simply installing replacement parts will become a major undertaking, as you, as the vehicle manufacturer, will have to prove that this part does not endanger anyone.
It seems you are not giving much thought to all the things that need to be done behind the scenes in order for your car to be approved or remain so.
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Why are they considered "equal" to a private individual? For a new construction like the Golf 6, there are also no TSNs initially[/quote]
Yes, these have existed for a long time before the car is released.
During the testing phase, these cars have the most ingenious entry in the vehicle documents: "Test vehicle of the vehicle manufacturer" according to §19 Abs 3 StVZo. In some cases, even without a VIN... or with the entry "manually entered"

Even most "road-legal" competition vehicles have this entry.
However, there is no plate for this...