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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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13-04-2011, 14:37 Subject: |
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Shit
After watching the videos, I also want an actuator.
The only question remaining is whether the STG can communicate with my PPD1.2 (03G 906 018 EM) - that is, at what level of abstraction it listens to the CAN.
Does anyone know? Transparency, Teamwork
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Hutfahrer Schrauber


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13-04-2011, 14:43 Subject: |
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Simply hang one shock absorber on each of the double number of rubber eggs...  Depending on the stiffness of the trunk floor, the sound will be more or less harsh. Automobile Zeitzeugen: |SUZUKI Swift Sport (2008)| |Smart 450 (2002)| |Kymco Heroism 125 (1997)|
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Roger Profi-Schrauber


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14-04-2011, 22:37 Subject: |
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Hi,
Since it doesn't appear as STG anywhere, I believe it can't be that complex. I'd almost believe that it's just extracting the speed signal from the protocol and that's it.
As far as I know, no one has ever retrofitted this. But at MT, the laying down is currently in - maybe you can get parts cheaply in that way  .
In the meantime, there are still plenty of things to watch and listen to. I think this also shows well the machine's willingness to turn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLvPSCkKds4&feature=relatedGruß
Roger
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Hutfahrer Schrauber


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15-04-2011, 6:33 Subject: |
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 If everyone starts building it... Can this be used in the Loewin?  Automobile Zeitzeugen: |SUZUKI Swift Sport (2008)| |Smart 450 (2002)| |Kymco Heroism 125 (1997)|
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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15-04-2011, 8:00 Subject: |
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Roger wrote: |
As far as I know, no one has ever retrofitted this. But at MT, the laying down is currently in - maybe you can get parts cheaply in that way .
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STG 35, Aktu 35 ... this is currently an offer.
If it's {OK}, then I think it's fine.
WOW
Rarely have I seen such a well-functioning CR-DSG.
P-Max and it immediately shifts into the next gear.
Here is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK7xmtJG_jU&feature=related
shows already a bit of "hanging" (at the end of the 1st Okay, that's what I had in 3AA/B7.
The poor CR is being shut down, even though it's no longer useful.
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15-04-2011, 8:05 Subject: |
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Martin, be honest, are you really interested in something like a "distraction"? Or do you then put a switch in the CAN bus to the actuator so that there is some peace and quiet if it gets too annoying?  BKD GRF
AHF EBF
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15-04-2011, 8:11 Subject: |
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Absolutely with "Switch"
"BBBBBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRR" is actually quite fun.
If it were possible, I would also enjoy listening to the truck sound with assisted gear changes.
And with the push of a button, absolute silence
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15-04-2011, 9:10 Subject: |
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There are also things like that for mourning (...with quite realistic sound?). I used to have a "fun kit" in a 60 PS Fiesta that was connected via OBD and produced a rumbling/booming V8 sound. Didn't really fit the car at all, but was definitely worth a good laugh when I was driving... Automobile Zeitzeugen: |SUZUKI Swift Sport (2008)| |Smart 450 (2002)| |Kymco Heroism 125 (1997)|
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15-04-2011, 9:12 Subject: |
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dieselmartin wrote: | STG 35, Act 35 ... this is currently an offer.
If it's okay, then I think it's fine. |
Practice makes perfect. If it doesn't work, go back to the harbor...
Quote: | Rarely have I seen such a well-functioning CR-DSG.
P-Max shifts IMMEDIATELY into the next gear. |
Maybe he also helped by using the gear lever?
Also, ich weiß auch nicht, ob es Unterschiede je nach Fahr-Modus gibt, und ob auch die Launch Control aktiv ist oder nicht. Meine GTD DSG Probefahrt ist einfach schon zu lange her. Ich habe Launch Control nicht ausprobiert, aber mit sanfter Gaspedalstellung hat der Wagen schon blitzschnell alle Gänge in 2 Sekunden gewechselt. Found it impressive, but it had too much temperament for me, making it unsuitable for ordering.
Quote: | | The poor CR is being spun, even though it's no longer producing anything. |
Okay, it seems to be stuck fast. IMO, the optimal operating speed is 4,400-4,500/min. Up to approximately 4,400, it maintains full power, with a speed of 200/min above the rated speed. Gruß
Roger
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15-04-2011, 9:49 Subject: |
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AH
I just discovered a risk in my brain:
Radio and climate both are directly connected to a CAN.
Nevertheless, you need a new CAN gateway if you want to use the new climate display in the 510.
If this is also the case, it will quickly become a potentially unsolvable rat's nest of retrofits, because the 3C has never been a body-worn device.
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15-04-2011, 10:01 Subject: |
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Additionally: As far as I remember, the TN (Technical Specification) for the STG (engine) is different for the GTI and GTD. Maybe your tractor will sound like a gasoline engine if you install the wrong part  . Gruß
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15-04-2011, 10:05 Subject: |
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OBD-controlled aftermarket boxes should, in principle, be able to function without the need for extensive, additional components. I had previously searched and found numerous boxes in the price range of $20 to $110. Even in the bay (imported directly from China)! Automobile Zeitzeugen: |SUZUKI Swift Sport (2008)| |Smart 450 (2002)| |Kymco Heroism 125 (1997)|
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15-04-2011, 10:09 Subject: |
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Roger wrote: | Furthermore, I believe that the TN (Technical Specification) for the STG (Engine Control Unit) is different for the GTI and GTD models. Maybe your tractor will sound like a gasoline engine if you install the wrong part . |
Or they are different because the relevant data is "somewhere else."
Then it can remain silent despite general functionality.
Therefore:
- too vague
- Too many projects already in the queue
- unfortunately, there isn't enough time
Menno...
I could extend the CAN drive and connect it to your box if I could  Transparency, Teamwork
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15-04-2011, 10:41 Subject: |
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What does BMW actually do to make their engines sound so good? Are they designed constructively, or do you also help with electronics afterwards?
Ford has solved this in the Focus ST with a line that is connected to the intake system and runs into the interior. The air vibrations in the system cause a rubber membrane mounted inside to vibrate.  However, the forums are also full of frustrated ST drivers who want to silence these things or at least make them quieter.
I've also driven a ST, and the interior noise was quite loud at times. It's mostly low-frequency and quite sensitive to resonance. Therefore, there are engine speeds at which the membrane reaches a state of ecstasy, and I can certainly understand why sensitive individuals find this overwhelming.
It also has some amusing quirks: The low-frequency humming disappears when you even slightly open a side window. Unfortunately, the wind noise at highway speeds is too loud to leave the window open for longer than just airing out the room. The membrane vibrates particularly loudly in the range between 3000 and approximately 4500 RPM – the range of relaxed highway driving. There is no way to adjust the noise level, expanding is practically impossible, and even workshops only install sound-absorbing felt as individual packages upon customer request. Automobile Zeitzeugen: |SUZUKI Swift Sport (2008)| |Smart 450 (2002)| |Kymco Heroism 125 (1997)|
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15-04-2011, 11:05 Subject: |
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Resonating pipes can be silenced by plugging them.
The electronic devices, apparently, are even easier to connect and disconnect with a simple plug-and-play method.
The crowning would certainly be achieved through adaptation  Transparency, Teamwork
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15-04-2011, 12:56 Subject: |
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Hutfahrer wrote: | Ford has solved this in the Focus ST with a line that is connected to the intake system and runs into the interior. The air vibrations in the system cause a rubber membrane mounted inside to vibrate. However, the forums are also full of frustrated ST owners who want to silence or at least reduce these things. |
Initially, this was also implemented on the VW GTI. However, it was later also converted to the electronic solution. This has the advantage of primarily working during acceleration and making little noise during constant speed. The suction tube solution, however, is constantly problematic.
The actor must be able to work on the spray wall in order to really realistically generate body sounds. If this is not the case, any attempt to rectify the situation will, in my opinion, seem ridiculous. Gruß
Roger
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