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ulf Profi-Schrauber

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23-06-2005, 11:44 Subject: |
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Mephisto wrote: | | Which oil, meeting the 505 01 specification, are you considering? |
LM Diesel HighTech - but not in the product itself, but already in the canister.
The Gratis Dose 506.01 is from Mobil.
Quote: | | That means you only refilled 0.25 liters after ~14,000 kilometers | .
Yes, the oil level is now lower than it was when the car had 0 kilometers on it. I probably won't reach the minimum price before the exchange.
The actual consumption is likely to be around 0.5 - 0.75 liters higher now. Gruß Ulf
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23-06-2005, 13:53 Subject: |
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Until the change, I probably won't reach the minimum .
At what mileage should it be replaced?
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ulf Profi-Schrauber

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23-06-2005, 20:06 Subject: |
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Julian wrote: | | At what mileage does the replacement need to be done? |
According to the remaining service interval display (read with VAGCOM), it's 87 days, if I recall correctly. By then, it will have driven approximately 16,000 kilometers.
The remaining kilometers would probably last longer for my daily commute (since there were still quite a few free kilometers available).
I don't really understand the calculation, but ultimately, it doesn't matter to me. Gruß Ulf
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mserge Schrauber

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26-10-2005, 14:20 Subject: |
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@ Julian :
You wrote that you would perform long-life servicing as long as there was a warranty on the car. That's basically okay, but what's the point of giving an old engine, which has already been pushed to its limits with long-life servicing, better maintenance when it's already suffered so much? The long-life servicing was only done so that customers could brag to their friends that they only need to go to the dealership every 35,000 or even 50,000 kilometers, and that the car is done for at 150,000 kilometers. Then, the calculations of the VAG engineers proved to be correct, much to the customer's dismay.
I personally experienced this with my car, at 130,000 km, where all four camshafts had worn down (more than 0.5mm), and the workshop thanked me for the €2,886 that the repair cost. For that, you can change the oil every 15,000 km for your entire life, using the best oil available.
If I ever become financially able to buy a new car again, regardless of the brand, you can be sure that the oil will be changed no later than 1 year or 20,000 km, regardless of the long-life oil interval. A4 Avant 2,5 tdi 110kw; AFB; BJ2000
4 neue Nockenwellen bei 135 tkm!!
neuer Turbo bei 200.000km
neue ESP bei 216.000km
verkauft mit 225000tkm
jetzt Renault Espace 2,0 dci 172 Initiale BJ2012
Clio 2 RS 170 PS BJ2003
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TDI-NAXTEX Blaumann

Joined: 06/07/2005 Posts: 48 Karma: +2 / -0 Location: "Im grünen Herzen Deutschland"
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26-10-2005, 15:24 Subject: |
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Opinions on oil change intervals vary widely.
We all know that engines need oil for lubrication and cooling. According to oil manufacturers, today's oils are all capable of reliably providing lubrication and cooling for well over 50,000 kilometers. This is likely one of the reasons why automobile manufacturers have confidently introduced long-life oil change intervals for their models. However, it's not the degradation of the oil that drives us to change it, but rather the limited capacity of the filter elements. Once the filter is clogged and dirty, it can potentially lead to increased wear on engine components due to unclean oil.
The oils, in any case, are still capable of providing 100% lubrication and cooling even after a complete extended drain interval.
I'm certainly not a proponent of extended oil change intervals. Therefore, I would suggest that if you want to use extended oil change intervals, you should change the oil filter halfway through the interval. The cost is under 20 euros, and it certainly can't hurt, right? Passat 3C Variant mit 2,0 TDI
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27-10-2005, 8:19 Subject: |
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@Julian:
Du hast geschrieben du würdest die LL solange machen wie Garantie auf deinem Wagen drauf ist. Das ist im Prinzip auch O.K., doch was nützt es dich bei einem alten, von wegen LL bis aufs letzte beanspruchte Motor mit besserer Wartung zu versehen wenn er schon so viel gelitten hat. Die LL wurden doch nur gemacht damit der Kunde bei seinen Kollegen prahlen kann dass er nur alle 35- oder gar 50tkm zum Freundlichen braucht und bei 150tkm ist die Kiste hin. Dann ist die Rechnung der VAG Ingenieure aufgegangen, die der Kunden den Bach runter.
Hier: https://community.dieselschrauber.org/en/viewtopic.php?t=9786
...haben wir herausgefunden, daß ein LL²-ÖL eine gewisse Scherstabilität unterschreitet, welches zu erhöhtem Veschleiss im Motor führen kann. Das wurde mit der Einführung der LL³-Öle nun unterbunden, welches ich seit neuestem auch fahre.
Auf die Analyse von wearcheck meines 2.Ölintervalles warte ich mom noch, der erste Test hat aber schon gezeigt, daß LL²-Öle ein extrem hohes Schmutztragevermögen haben und selbst nach 32.000km eine insgesamt bessere Qualität aufweisen, als z.B ein 5W-40 ca. 3000km nach dem letzten Wechsel.
Einzig der Eintrag durch Silicium (Staub usw.) ist im Möl zu finden, welches ich beim 2.Turn mit dem häufigeren Wechsel (alle 15.000km statt 90.000km) des MotorLufi versucht habe zu senken. Mal schauen, ob es etwas gebracht hat.
Ich habe dies Live miterlebt an meinem Wagen, bei 130tkm Nockenwellen alle 4 eingelaufen (mehr als 0,5mm) und die Werkstatt bedankte sich über die 2886€ die die Reparatur gekostet hat. Dafür kannst ein Leben lang alle 15tkm Oel wechseln mit dem Besten was es je gegeben hat.
Falls ich noch einmal schwach werde und mir einen neuen Wagen leisten sollte, egal welche Marke, kannst du sicher sein dass spätensden nach 1 Jahr und 20tkm das Oel gewechselt wird, LL hin oder her.
Naja, was fährst Du AFB? Die eingelaufenen NW sind beim 2.5er ja nichts besonderes, quasi ein Feature oder Bug, wie mans sieht. Meine NW sieht, soweit man es sehen kann, noch tadellos aus. Aber ist ein 1.9er PD.
Mein VergleichsA4 hier in Wü hat als Taxi mittlerweile schon 240.000km per LL aufm Buckel, der Wechsel ruft ca alle 20-25.000km und der Fahrer ist zufrieden. |
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27-10-2005, 8:21 Subject: |
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I'm certainly not a proponent of extended oil change intervals. Therefore, I would suggest that if you want to use extended oil change intervals, you should change the oil filter halfway through the interval. The costs are less than 20 euros, and it certainly can't hurt, right?
Will changing the filter actually make a difference? Do you have any in-depth knowledge on this (e.g., oil analysis), or are you just doing it based on intuition?
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