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Post18-11-2003, 20:42    Subject: Quote

Hi,

The discussion here is taking on tones that are otherwise uncommon in this forum, and if necessary, will be enforced through force icon_smile.gif.

@Diesel Gustav: Occasionally, you encounter clueless people who would probably prefer to fix their car with telekinesis. But nobody likes them.
The purpose of this forum and, in particular, the technical articles is not to show Bosch how to properly adjust fuel injection systems or to teach research associates how to open an ESP with a pair of pliers. (Hopefully, there aren't any people like that here...)
It's more about being able to help out as much as possible, even without having complete equipment.
It is clear that achieving 100% perfection is not always possible, but it is not always necessary either.
If a component is already beyond repair and destined for the scrap heap anyway, you can be more daring in your approach.
If you ever want to see what kind of posts can result from a simple desire to share information, take a look at the "motortalk" forum!

@ Jörg: Were you trying to provoke Diesel Gustav? That wouldn't be very polite.

"Rainer: Of course, no one will beg, but without Gustav and his expertise on diesel engines, the technical level would definitely decrease. Sure, everyone is replaceable. However, I would be sorry to see him go."
Gruß Christian
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Post18-11-2003, 20:48    Subject: Quote

@ Jörg: Were you trying to provoke Diesel Gustav? That wouldn't be very nice.



That's not something I feel strongly about. I simply expressed what I didn't like! And as far as I can tell, I'm not the only one who feels that way. Perhaps there are others who think similarly but choose not to write anything about it.

Okay, and now I'll step back again!


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Post18-11-2003, 21:08    Subject: Quote

What are these childish power struggles all about?

Let me just say it directly: I haven't experienced such a dominant and aggressive behavior in any other technical forum. Take an example from the warm, relaxed interaction in this automotive technical forum (which unfortunately doesn't have a diesel version): http://www.trabantforum.de/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro

And: No, this wasn't a malicious act of terrorism by some know-it-all ideologue, but rather a friendly reminder icon_wink.gif.


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Post18-11-2003, 21:54    Subject: Quote

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Post18-11-2003, 22:37    Subject: Quote

Hi diesel.gustav.

'Colleagues' is exactly the right word! I would be very sorry if an important member were to leave because of a disagreement, which I'll just call a kindergarten-level dispute. Your contributions are certainly as valuable as those of others, because no one is perfect, and each of you has specific knowledge that the other doesn't. It's a great way to complement each other! And if something is not phrased correctly or is simply wrong from someone's perspective, please feel free to correct it, taking into account certain manners (if you like, via private message). So in this spirit, let's have good cooperation.


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Post19-11-2003, 9:03    Subject: Quote

Hi Jörg,
It sounded to me almost like that because you were surprised by my not-so-mildly grumpy response.
It's certainly pleasing when that's not the case.
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Post19-11-2003, 11:01    Subject: Quote

Hello everyone,

I'm now seeing the situation more objectively, without getting too emotionally involved.
The Earth will continue to orbit the sun even without diesel.gustav, although some valuable contributions and some unproductive criticism will be missing.

I'm just so tired of the constant threats of "not writing anymore."
This isn't the only forum where there's trouble due to gustav's often peculiar behavior, is it?

@diesel.gustav: If you're looking for validation for your ego, I'm sorry. We're not here to be supplicants.

Whether you continue writing here or not is entirely up to you.

Best regards, Rainer.


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