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Post13-12-2004, 18:32    Subject: Quote

Please take it to an independent dynamometer to determine the exact performance.


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Post13-12-2004, 18:51    Subject: Quote

Yes, that's also a possibility, but today I logged a 1.9 [value], which does exactly what is required.

If I can get a log from a non-chipped 5-series now, we can at least compare them.

The question that remains open is: where does the value of smoke restrictions come from?
Is this a value from the control unit, or one that is calculated based on input parameters? For example, could it be used to determine if the problem lies with the EGR valve or the mass airflow sensor, both of which could be producing plausible values?

The 1.9-liter engine I tested today consistently had a smoke level that was either the same as or higher than the other values.


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Post14-12-2004, 19:46    Subject: Quote

Hi.

That's exactly why I didn't go to your tuner, but to the one in Wiggensbach. Go back there and tell them that the software is garbage and that the car isn't any better than it was before. Besides, you still have a warranty on everything. Since my Polo with 133 horsepower already reaches 215 km/h, a 5-series with 170 horsepower and a 6-speed transmission should definitely be able to go much faster.

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Post14-12-2004, 22:17    Subject: Quote

rather than to Wiggensbach

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Post14-12-2004, 22:20    Subject: Quote

Hi
Since my Polo with 133 horsepower already reaches 215 km/h, a 5-series with 170 horsepower and a 6-speed transmission should definitely be able to go much faster.
Best regards, Christian

Yes, I also think that the excessively low smoke limit, whatever the reason for it being so low, is the cause. Unfortunately, no one can definitively confirm this... but I think it should be possible to adjust it from the inside.


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Post15-12-2004, 20:54    Subject: Quote

Hi,

Yes, I've been to ******lich. We often send our customers there, and so far, we've never had any negative experiences (meaning no turbo or engine problems). But, have the software checked. As I said, it's probably junk.

Best regards, Christian.


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Post16-12-2004, 20:34    Subject: Quote

Okay, here's the whole thing again, with a comparison:

A3 Sportback with BKD engine, UNCHIPPED.
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And the Golf 5 with the *** chip:
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Both are BKD engines. In the unchipped version, the smoke reduction is above a certain level, while with a chip, the lowest value is achieved.http://img135.exs.cx/img135/7826/8pa0088fp.jpg{MARKER}http://img135.exs.cx/img135/7825/1k0081ek.jpg{MARKER}


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Post16-12-2004, 20:44    Subject: Quote

Here's a small comparison, also with an A4 FL 1.9L TDI:
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Post16-12-2004, 21:27    Subject: Quote


Both are BKD engines; in the unchipped version, the smoke reduction is above a certain level, while with the chip, the lowest value is achieved...

I would say it's a cheap imitation...

and forget about significantly increasing the maximum speed; that only works if the engine can't reach its rated RPM in the highest gear.
If it's running at its maximum speed, the only things left to do are either generate excessive noise or mechanically overload the motor.

CU Gremlin.


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Post16-12-2004, 21:45    Subject: Quote

When it comes to A-B-T products, you certainly can't talk about cheap imitations...


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Post16-12-2004, 22:03    Subject: Quote

vagtuning wrote:
So, when it comes to A-B-T, you certainly can't talk about cheap copies...

Cheap certainly not...

But I wonder, for example, why there's still nothing available for the ASZ Polo (with OBD!), while other companies have been offering it for a long time.
-> It might be worth considering the possibility that A** hasn't yet found a data provider.
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Post18-12-2004, 18:11    Subject: Quote

Today, I had the opportunity to perform the same procedure with another G5 A-B-T.
The results for MWB 008 are almost identical to ours. The smoke limit is also at the lowest value. While the differences aren't as extreme as with ours, the maximum speed is only slightly above 210 km/h according to the speedometer.

'Does this exist? Why aren't these things working? I used to drive an A3 with the same engine, but without a chip, and it already had more power than the stock rating... And if you look in forums, you'll see a lot of Golfs that are already showing 210-225 km/h on the speedometer with the stock engine.'


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Post18-12-2004, 18:41    Subject: Quote

Hi,

What is the top speed of your car, and what kind of features/equipment does it have?

Okay, if I may say so, a Golf V with 170 horsepower that only goes up to 210-215 km/h is frankly ridiculous. The A3 (8P) with its original 140 horsepower already reaches speeds of 220-230 km/h according to the speedometer.

Go to Wiggensbach and ask if that's really him.

Best regards, Christian.


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Post18-12-2004, 18:45    Subject: Quote

According to the tuner, the value is then indicated as 213.
'But those are probably not speedometer readings...'
It's truly frustrating... a 3-series Golf GTI with only 115 horsepower can leave some cars in the dust on the highway.


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Post18-12-2004, 18:53    Subject: Quote

Okay, I definitely noticed a difference in my top speed. Going from 195 to 215 km/h is acceptable.

But the 3-series GTI, that one hurts...... icon_sad.gif

Best regards.


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Post21-12-2004, 20:31    Subject: Quote

ulf wrote:
-> The assumption that A** hasn't yet found a data provider is something that should at least be considered.

Update:
According to an email from a local A** tuner, the ASZ Polo can indeed be tuned.
The information seems comprehensive because it includes the model number, serial number, and software version.
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