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Post13-12-2004, 18:32    Subject: Quote

Go to an independent dynamometer for a precise performance test.


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Post13-12-2004, 18:51    Subject: Quote

Yes, that would also be a possibility, but today I logged a 1.9 version that does exactly what is required.

If I can get a log from a non-chipped '5' engine now, we can at least compare them.

The question that remains open is: where does the value of smoke reduction come from?
Is this a value from the control unit itself, or one that is calculated based on input parameters? For example, could it indicate a problem with the EGR valve or the mass airflow sensor (MAF), both of which could produce plausible values?

The smoke limit for the 1.9 unit I tested today was always equal to or higher than the other values.


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Post14-12-2004, 19:46    Subject: Quote

Hi.

That's exactly why I didn't go to your tuner, but instead went to the one in Wiggensbach. Go back there and tell them that the software is garbage and that the car isn't any better than it was before. Besides, you still have a warranty on everything. Because if my Polo with 133 hp already goes 215 km/h, then a 5-series with 170 hp and a 6-speed transmission should be able to do much more.

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Post14-12-2004, 22:17    Subject: Quote

rather than to Wiggensbach.

Unfortunately?


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Post14-12-2004, 22:20    Subject: Quote

Hi
Since my Polo with 133 horsepower already reaches 215 km/h, a 5 Series with 170 horsepower and a 6-speed transmission should definitely be able to go much faster.
Best regards, Christian

Yes, I also think that the excessively low smoke limit, whatever the reason for it being so low, is the cause. Unfortunately, no one can definitively confirm this... but I believe it should be possible to adjust it from within.


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Post15-12-2004, 20:54    Subject: Quote

Hi,

Yes, I've been to ******lich before. We often send our customers there, and so far, we haven't had any negative experiences (meaning no turbo or engine problems). But definitely have them check the software; it's probably garbage.

Best regards, Christian.


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Post16-12-2004, 20:34    Subject: Quote

Okay, here's the whole thing again, with a comparison:

A3 Sportback with BKD engine, UNCHIPPED.
http://img135.exs.cx/img135/7826/8pa0088fp.jpg

And the Golf 5 with an *** chip:
http://img135.exs.cx/img135/7825/1k0081ek.jpg

Both are BKD engines; in the unchipped version, the smoke reduction is above a certain level, while with a chip (tuning), the lowest value is achieved.


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Post16-12-2004, 20:44    Subject: Quote

Here's another comparison, this time with a Volkswagen Golf A4 1.9L TDI:
http://img134.exs.cx/img134/3573/8ec0080vl.jpg


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Post16-12-2004, 21:27    Subject: Quote


Both are BKD engines; in the unchipped version, the smoke reduction is above a certain level, while with a chip, the lowest value is achieved...

I would say it's a cheap imitation...

and forget about significantly increasing the maximum speed; that only works if the engine can't reach its rated RPM in the highest gear.
If it's running at its maximum speed (RPM), there's not much else that can happen besides producing excessive noise or mechanically overloading the engine.

CU Gremlin.


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Post16-12-2004, 21:45    Subject: Quote

Certainly, one cannot speak of cheap imitations when it comes to A-B-T products.


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Post16-12-2004, 22:03    Subject: Quote

vagtuning wrote:
So, when it comes to A-B-T, you certainly can't talk about cheap copies...

Cheap certainly not...

But I wonder, for example, why there's still nothing available for the ASZ Polo (with OBD!), while other companies have been offering it for a long time.
-> It might be worth considering the possibility that company A hasn't yet found a data provider...
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Post18-12-2004, 18:11    Subject: Quote

Today, I had the opportunity to perform the same procedure with another G5 A-B-T device.
The results for test MWB 008 are almost identical to ours. The smoke emission is also at the lowest possible value. While the differences aren't as extreme as with our product, the maximum speed recorded on his speedometer is only slightly above 210 km/h.

'Does this exist? Why aren't these things working...? I used to drive an A3 with the same engine without a chip, and it already exceeded its stock power output... And if you look in forums, many Golfs are also reported to have speeds of 210-225 km/h on the speedometer even with their standard settings.'


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Post18-12-2004, 18:41    Subject: Quote

Hello,

What is the top speed of your car, and what kind of features/equipment does it have?

Okay, if I may say so, a Golf V with 170 horsepower that only reaches 210-215 km/h is ridiculous. The A3 (8P) with 140 horsepower already achieves 220-230 km/h according to the speedometer.

Go to Wiggensbach and ask if that's really him.

Best regards, Christian.


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Post18-12-2004, 18:45    Subject: Quote

According to the tuner, the value is then indicated as 213.
but those are probably not speedometer readings...
It's truly disappointing... a 3-series Golf GTI with only 115 horsepower can leave some cars in the dust on the highway.


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Post18-12-2004, 18:53    Subject: Quote

Okay, I definitely noticed a change in my top speed. An increase from 195 to 215 km/h is acceptable.

But the 3-series GTI hurts... icon_sad.gif

Best regards,


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Post21-12-2004, 20:31    Subject: Quote

ulf wrote:
-> It might be worth considering the possibility that A** hasn't yet found a data provider.

Update:
According to an email from a local A** tuner, the ASZ Polo can indeed be tuned.
The information seems comprehensive because it includes the mainboard model, serial number, and software version.
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