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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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31-08-2005, 15:36 Subject: |
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Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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24-09-2005, 7:52 Subject: |
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The TS800 completely failed in aquaplaning tests conducted by ADAC in the 175/65 R 14 size  .
Well... it's just ADAC tests. They've been telling me for years that the Conti Sport Contact 2 is prone to aquaplaning and therefore quite unstable in wet conditions. However, my experience with these tires on now 4 different vehicles is that I haven't driven a better summer tire in wet conditions yet.
You can definitely find the TS 790 at a reasonable price, and I highly recommend it for wet conditions. This year, I got the TS 810, so let's see how it performs.
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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24-09-2005, 8:58 Subject: |
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The TS790/810 is not an option for me because it's not available in my configuration/size.
So, either I'll look for another TS780, because I was very happy with that one back then, or I'll go with a different brand (Goodyear UG 7).
m; Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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24-09-2005, 10:03 Subject: |
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Well, I chose the Michelin Alpin A2 last year because it consistently ranked at the top in most tests. What's its current ranking with ADAC?
Weird...
Of course, the test results also depend on the dimensions of the tires and the test vehicle.
By the way, I use 185/60 R14 tires for winter driving on my 3 Series. VW Golf III TDI Avenue, MKB 1Z, EZ96
VW Passat 3B Variant Highline, MKB AEB, EZ98, LPG
Opel Vectra C SW First Edition, MKB Z19DTH, EZ05
Aktuell: Ford Ranger 3,2l, Automatik, MKB SAFA, EZ 2014
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29-09-2005, 11:43 Subject: |
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Based on my experience, there's no way around Goodyear. So far, they've been the best tires I've ever used in the winter. I've been using the UG 6, and now I'm excited to try the UG 7, which I'm planning to buy this year. It performed the best in the ADAC test.
With this tire, I've even managed to get through the last two snowy winters here in Austria without all-wheel drive  (and I always have to drive uphill...).
By the way, the Michelin Alpine A2 is also very good.
Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:
"MFG" is an abbreviation for "Mit freundlichen Grüßen," which means "Sincerely" or "Best regards" in English. Audi A3 Ambition, Bj.02, ASZ - SoftwareTuning 160PS
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29-09-2005, 11:47 Subject: |
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The UG6 or UG7 are definitely among the best tires you can buy for snow, but they unfortunately tend to have a somewhat indirect steering feel and can cause significant understeer in front-wheel-drive vehicles.
Can the Dunlop M3 or D3 be better? 
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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30-09-2005, 0:00 Subject: |
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Hi.
Could someone please post the Stiftung Warentest test from October 2005 here?
I wonder if they were tested in collaboration with the ADAC, or if other tests yielded different results.
m; Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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30-09-2005, 8:51 Subject: Winter Tire Test 10/05 |
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Hello everyone,
Here are the test results from Stiftung Warentest.
How do I insert an image here?
Unfortunately, I have no other option.
http://service.gmx.net/mc/aFMdMaivWWwt8YaDoh2J3VbPg3ItF0
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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30-09-2005, 9:26 Subject: |
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I'll just put it here.
The test, however, is from the 1950s.
I'm actually interested in the TS800 (which is the smaller brother of the TS810). According to Goodyear, it should have been tested in 10/2005, in size 174/65 R14, alongside the Goodyear UG7.
http://de.goodyear.de/ug7/testergebnisse.php
EDIT: Attachment removedTransparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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30-09-2005, 10:30 Subject: |
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Okay, I've added the 175s now.
http://service.gmx.net/mc/xxa8gICqm0LG8qebdiseCV1WEokjH3
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07-12-2005, 4:47 Subject: |
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Okay, I guess I'll just keep using my crappy Uniroyals for now, drifting with the G3 Variant really gets my adrenaline pumping.
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Uniroyals are even better than Continental on wet roads. The only reason this tire receives bad ratings is due to its high wear rate! In my opinion, Continental is just expensive and of poor quality, as evidenced by the ÖAMTC's assessment.
"Meanwhile, the usual top performers from the Conti Group are having a double setback: both on snow and ice, the new Conti TS 810 struggles to clear the set benchmarks."
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Have I already said in this thread that I consider my Dunlop WinterSport M3 tires to be the best?
They are incredibly quiet, perform well in all areas, and are not nearly as expensive as brands like Michelin.
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In terms of price/performance ratio, the Dunlop is undoubtedly the best.
wbuchi82 wrote: | So, from my experience, there's no way around Goodyear. They've been the best tires I've ever driven on in the winter.
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And this is, by far, the best tire if price is not a factor  .
ÖAMTC verdict: Overall winner.
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07-12-2005, 11:06 Subject: |
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The TS 810 is not relevant to this discussion because it is not available in the dimensions of the Golf 3 Variant.
If so, then we need to talk about the TS 800.
But it's already a done deal anyway, because anyone who doesn't already have a wallbox probably isn't really concerned about it anymore...
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07-12-2005, 12:04 Subject: |
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Hello Martin,
Why don't you just put on the Dunlop M3 tires and be done with it?
You've probably heard this more and more lately: many people are satisfied with the quality, and it's not even that expensive.
I don't really understand why you're putting yourself through so much stress about this.
Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:
'MFG' is an abbreviation for 'Mit freundlichen Grüßen,' which means 'Sincerely' or 'Best regards' in English.
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