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Post07-06-2004, 12:30    Subject: Quote

hello,

I've now also acquired an ABS control unit.
'However, in my case, it's version E (1H0 907 379E).'
Is the layout the same as in version D? icon_rolleyes.gif


thank you very much icon_exclaim.gif


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Post14-06-2004, 11:04    Subject: Quote

Hello.

Can anyone tell me where I can find information about the pinout for the ABS/EDS control unit with part number 1H0 907 379E?
I am mainly interested in the K-line and the supply voltage.


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Post14-06-2004, 19:13    Subject: Quote


In this case, it's a pure ABS system, without Electronic Stability Control (ESC).

This part was originally installed in the Corrado, Golf (1992-1995), Golf Cabriolet (1994-1998), and Passat 35i.


If we're already talking about it, the Passat 35i B4 VR6 had an EDS (Electronic Differential Lock). Is it possible to simply replace the engine control unit (ECU) with EDS with one without EDS?

Best regards, WarLord.


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Post15-06-2004, 8:01    Subject: Quote


If we're already talking about it, the Passat 35i B4 VR6 had an EDS (Electronic Differential Lock). Is it possible to simply replace the engine control unit (ECU) with EDS with one without EDS?
Greetings, WarLord.

no.

The EDS (Electronic Stability System) requires the appropriate valve block. Like the ESP, the EDS must be able to brake each wheel individually. Standard ABS valve blocks cannot handle this.

If the ABS module is the same, it might work. However, if it's purely ABS and not integrated with other systems, it won't work.

CU Gremlin.


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Post15-06-2004, 13:39    Subject: Quote

No, it's about the fact that there will be no more EDS in it afterwards, so it will only contain pure ABS.

Best regards, WarLord.


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Post15-06-2004, 22:04    Subject: Quote

narf....

In the morning, I can't read anything before 9 o'clock icon_wink.gif.


Yes... yes... yes, now I see it too...


'Hmm... theoretically, it should work. The question is whether the plugs will fit...'
...but why give up on the EDS?
I think this thing is brilliant icon_twisted.gif.

See you, Grem,lin.


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Post17-06-2004, 8:46    Subject: Quote


...but why give up on the EDS?


It can also intervene during operation and individually brake certain wheels.

Best regards, WarLord.


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Post17-06-2004, 9:01    Subject: Quote

@warlord,

I thought this topic had already been discussed sufficiently in this forum and others. However, this thread is not intended to continue that discussion. I also thought that there had been enough clear and concise answers to your question regarding the deactivation of ESP/EDS/etc.!


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Post17-06-2004, 18:48    Subject: Quote

Okay, so my MSG (Motronic Steuergerät) from the Golf III is also here icon_smile.gif. When I find some time, I'll try to perform the initial setup during the weekend.


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Post17-06-2004, 19:01    Subject: Quote

@cluster2

811 906 264 is from a GX engine, and there was no diagnostic capability available for that model.

1H0 907 379 E (ABS/EDS)

I didn't find anything.

@gerbi

1H0 959 656 > 1H0 959 650 > 1H0 959 650 B

also nothing found either...

p.s.: With a little luck, I'll have a CAN gateway and a G5 combination instrument on the test stand tomorrow icon_wink.gif.


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Post17-06-2004, 21:17    Subject: Quote

@joergs

Sure, no problem.

Best regards, WarLord.


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Post18-06-2004, 10:43    Subject: Quote

I now have 3 items, but I haven't figured out how to connect them yet...

1K0 920 870 K (Instrument cluster, Golf V)
1K0 907 530 C (CAN Gateway for Golf V)
1K0 953 549 A (Steering column control unit, Golf V)

Does anyone have experience with CAN devices?


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Post18-06-2004, 12:49    Subject: Quote

Um, I have some experience with CAN, but mostly on the physical and programming levels... unfortunately, not so much in the automotive area (CANopen).

As far as I know, the automotive industry uses the CANopen protocol.


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Post18-06-2004, 13:37    Subject: Quote

I'm going to try to adapt the pin configuration from version D to version E for my control unit.
Theoretically, I only need to connect pin 1,19 to ground, pin 35 to 12 volts, and the K-line to my diagnostic connector.

...but somehow I can't connect, did I forget something?


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Post18-06-2004, 13:38    Subject: Quote

I'm going to try to adapt the pin configuration from version D for my control unit to version E.
Theoretically, I only need to connect pin 1,19 to ground, pin 35 to 12 volts, and the K-line to my diagnostic connector.

...but somehow I'm not getting a connection, have I forgotten something?

Ignition plus?

Are all the power connections properly connected?


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Post02-08-2004, 23:09    Subject: Quote

Just a quick note for those who are interested: I finally found some time and integrated a Golf 5 instrument cluster into the test environment. Of course, the corresponding CAN gateway is a prerequisite.

Some of the devices that use the CAN bus require an activation signal, which needs to be emulated on the bus. A CAN emulator would be helpful, or even necessary, in this case.


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