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loveme wrote:

After replacing the tax device (under warranty!), the problem was resolved, and as a positive side effect, it is now almost impossible to siphon !

Hm, can you please read out the part number and software version of your engine computer as a "reference" for others?

Do you know more about the exchange, or specifically, when the "good" software was originally included?

I don't have a diagnostic device at home, unfortunately. I only have a laptop with a USB port, and I find the €300 price tag a bit too expensive!

But I'll have to look through my records!

The modified control unit is available from the beginning of this year!
I have no idea when this started to be included in the series!

Ulf wrote:

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Hmm, could you please read out the part number and software version of your engine computer as a "reference" for others?

Here are my documents!
Excerpt HST2:

Problem Description
Irregular idling during warm-up phase.

Cause
The engine runs unevenly between 20-70 degrees Celsius coolant temperature. The uneven engine running is also noticeable as a misfire inside the vehicle cabin. In a manual transmission, when the clutch is engaged, the engine's operation returns to normal.

Serial Solution
New Software Implementation:
96 kW ASZ, Model Year 03, with manual transmission, Data Status 5259
110 kW ARL MJ/03 with manual transmission, data status 5352

KD Solution
Please compare using the following table to determine which tax equipment is required and order the KD solution through ET-Kassel.

Predecessor---------- Successor---------------Data Status
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
038 906 019 FG-----038 998 019 A-----------------5362
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
038 906 019 HJ-----Gearbox/ 4-Motion-----5259
-------------------------038 906 019 HJ

-----------------------Automatic Transmission--------------5363
-----------------------038 998 019 B
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
038 906 019 HH---038 906 019 HH----------------5352


I hope this is comprehensive enough!
Therefore, I now have data up to level 5259!

Has anyone ever successfully driven a PD without ever having it shut down (I've managed to do it myself several times)?

When I think of the V6, driving on the country road at a moderate speed, only between 1000 and 1400 RPM, it's almost like a tractor

Okay, the V6 simply has more momentum, so you can't get that out quickly. The PD engine becomes more flexible as it's used, I only had to rev it a few times in the first 5000km. But it also had to do with the fact that my predecessor, the Golf 4 ALH, had shorter gear ratios (and significantly so!), which made it easier to remove the engine.
It's all about getting used to it, and the PD also handles lower speeds well, which makes it less sensitive.

loveme wrote:

Here are my documents! . . .I hope this is comprehensive enough! Therefore, I now have data level 5259!

Okay, that's enough.
Thank you

Hello everyone!

Today, I had another opportunity for a thorough PD test (which is why business trips are so useful ).
This time it was a 5-door Golf with the 1.9 TDI and 77kW engine. A very harmonious engine, as I find. The "small" 105 hp engine gets off to a much better start than the 130 hp engine. The way the torque is developed is much more harmonious and also less spectacular. There was no sign of starting difficulties or reluctance to start.
The Turbosound is simply brilliant . Even the slightest movement of the accelerator pedal, even from idle speed, modulates the Turbosound. That's almost addictive!
Especially, lifting the accelerator pedal during gear changes or removing it causes the engine to rev higher.
The engine also works very well with the 6-speed gearbox. One can always find a good translation.
The consumption was also quite okay. At moderate speeds on country roads and short highway journeys, the fuel consumption was just below 5.5 liters per 100 kilometers.
I also find the "jerk" damping of the MSG interesting. If you just briefly touch the gas pedal while the car is rolling without any throttle input, you'll still hear a faint, ticking sound from the fuel injection system for a short time after you've lifted your foot off the pedal. A clear indication of a strongly suppressed and smoothed target value.

Okay, that's enough now.

Greetings
Alex

P.S. I could easily imagine that, with a moderate power increase, one could achieve a harmonious 130 horsepower engine.

Hi Alex!

Have you also noticed a strong dependence of 'in the seat pressure' on the LD?
Personally, I feel that way. For example, when you press the accelerator pedal firmly at 2000 min^-1, you immediately feel some boost. But it really starts to accelerate shortly afterward, when the turbo pressure is also applied. You can almost feel the turbocharger spooling up. That suggests a strict smoking restriction to me.

Hello, how are you?
Joe

Hi

I had the pleasure of driving a BMW 330d (still with 190 horsepower) last weekend. What surprised me the most was that you can actually drive at low engine speeds (below 1000 rpm) without any jerking or vibrations. And the "grumbling" sound when you accelerate hard is simply wonderful. As a single-seater driver, I can only dream of this.
Unfortunately, you can barely hear anything from the Turbosound speakers.

Hi
What surprised me the most was that you can drive at speeds below 1000 without any jerking or vibrations.

That's just as good with a V6, even uphill! Maybe it's due to the 6 cylinders.

Hi,

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What surprised me the most was that you can drive at speeds below 1000 without any jerking or vibrations.

As long as it's just a gentle hill, my ASV can handle it in fourth gear and neutral. "It does vibrate a bit (it's not a 6-cylinder engine), but there's no jerking."

Best regards,

Jan

Yes, I believe you
PS: Despite having 6 cylinders, fuel consumption is only 6.5L.

Hi,

What surprised me the most was that you can drive at speeds below 1000 without any jerking or vibrations.

Yes, it works with the 5-cylinder engine too. The problem is that it has a specific engine vibration at exactly 1,200 RPM. But this is likely due to the design of the 5-cylinder engine and also experienced with Mercedes Diesel engines.
It's also not comparable to the hassle of my old 1Z. It feels more like a ferry (or even a large pot), where the engine revs up from idle. Then, a typical shudder also runs through the ship.

6.5 Liter Verbrauch sind schon sehr gut. I also consume at least 6.5 liters, more likely 7.

My PD-VP comparison values are based on a 1Z, an AAT, and a 2.0 TDI-PD.
The PD was extremely stubborn. However, this only applied to the sound, as the engine's operation was significantly better in terms of vibrations, compared to the 1Z, and also at least as good as the 5er AAT.
Even when idling, the PD was performing exceptionally well, which is not always the case, especially when reading about certain issues with PDs under idling conditions.
The responsiveness was very immediate, almost like an electric motor. Especially compared to the AAT, which produced a lot of thrust like a passenger jet, but in a very slow and deliberate manner. I really liked the PD (presumably referring to a specific engine), but I didn't like the A3's suspension at all; it was a disaster for the spine and teeth, which kept clashing against each other. I don't like things that are wibbly-wobbly and hard.

Oh, to gag someone:
The A3 didn't slip during the 1-hour test drive, even though the clutch didn't provide any feedback. It was so light that I wondered if it actually engaged when I took my foot off the pedal. The Audi 100 has a clutch for large feet... However, I also always drive the 100 in 2nd gear because the 1st gear is a joke. This didn't work out so well with the PD - but it's definitely also a matter of experience.

@joe*

Is it also like this in the Touran, and the behavior is simply extremely annoying. Our ATJ doesn't have this as pronounced, but unfortunately, it's still a little bit. The 1Z was better.

@wolfi_b

The running of the x30d machine is great, but the engine sound really bothers me (especially the roaring sound that enters the interior). In my opinion, BMW cannot match the sound of VAG in terms of acoustics. Their V6 (whether gasoline or diesel) simply sound fantastic.

Best regards, WarLord

Regarding the 330d, you don't really hear much from the inside. The car is quieter than a Golf 4, Golf 3, or Golf 5 TDI. There you can't hear any roaring.

I managed to completely stall our 100PS PD engine at the traffic lights and even on the hill. Anyway, the engine seems to be acting strangely. I actually prefer the 105PS engine in the Golf 5 overall. Can Alex only share his experience?

I have never had to 'cut out' my 74kW PD (AXR) in my Golf 4. However, my clutch gives a strong feedback or is quite difficult to depress.
Driving at around 1000 rpm is no problem even in 5th gear; no jerking or anything like that is noticeable.
After reducing the idle speed from 900 rpm to 860 rpm, the slight idle vibration has also completely disappeared. The throttle control unit is no longer working in my car, and all the PD (Power Delivery) elements have already been replaced under warranty
Also, der durchschnittliche Verbrauch von etwa 5,2 l/100 km ist absolut in Ordnung (20% Stadt, 50% Autobahn, 30% Landstraße).