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Post15-03-2006, 21:32    Subject: Fuel Injector Issues: Low Performance Causes Quote

I'm still experiencing the usual performance issues and occasional rattling, and I'm at a loss as to what's causing it. Some people might remember this.

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Here's some news: I recently had someone disassemble the fuel injection pump. The inside looked brand new. However, when installing it, it was noticed that the shaft had a relatively large amount of play, moving forward and backward.

After seeing what's going on there, for example, that plate with the four protrusions that moves back and forth, I'm starting to wonder:

How does such a clearance affect the pump's performance? Where can this clearance originate? And are there forces generated during pump operation that could cause internal parts to rattle?

Here's one more important thing: Could it be that the electrical system for the pump in the fuel metering unit is defective? I just remembered that the car runs better with the modified software. Therefore, the pump *could* potentially deliver more fuel if it wanted to... But if it's not doing that, that can only mean that it's either experiencing proportional pressure losses, or it's being controlled incorrectly and at too low a level, right? Unfortunately, you can't just easily replace the fuel metering unit, can you...?

Who here has a good understanding of the pump's construction and can tell me more about it?

Is there a device that allows you to connect a sensor instead of a nozzle, which measures the pressure and spray volume produced by the pump? Or how else can I check the performance of the pump without having to send it to Bosch for 600 euros?

BTW, it's still about the 1.9 TDI 1Z engine, manufactured in 1996, with the VP37 injection pump.


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Post16-03-2006, 15:17    Subject: Fuel Injector Issues: Low Performance Causes Quote

Hello!

Okay, I'm assuming that the wave seal is no longer sealing properly due to the game, causing the pump to draw in air. This, in turn, prevents the injection timing from being regulated correctly because the pressure inside the pump is dropping. If that's the case, the error code in the fault memory should read 'Injection Timing Control Difference.'

for example, this plate with the 4 raised areas

I assume you're referring to the impeller; if this is worn out (due to fuel with poor lubrication, such as kerosene), the flow rate and thus the amount of fluid pumped will decrease; furthermore, the return springs could also be broken (this should be visible when the pump is disassembled).

Therefore, the pump CAN deliver more fuel if it wants to...

Okay - the engine control unit receives the deviation of the fuel quantity control valve, but not the actual amount of fuel injected icon_exclaim.gif. In tuning, the fuel quantity control valve is deflected further, and thus more fuel is injected. However, if the pump delivers less fuel globally (i.e., across all speed and load ranges), the target amount will not be injected here either;

Who has enough knowledge about the pump's structure to say more about it?


What exactly do you want to know?

And isn't there a device that allows you to connect a sensor instead of a nozzle, which measures the pressure and amount of liquid dispensed by the pump? Or how else can I check the performance of the pump without having to send it to Bosch for 600 euros?


Yes, there is such a device, it's called a fuel injection pump test bench; it costs around XXXXXX Euros, and that's why the Bosch dealer also charges that much to check it; he has to recoup his investment icon_wink.gif.

Possibly find a used pump at a low price and install it icon_idea.gif.

It was only during the installation that it was noticed that the axle had a relatively large amount of play forwards and backwards.


I would probably do something about that soon, because a slipping pump pulley can cause the timing belt to come off icon_exclaim.gif.

Best regards, Nebelwerfer.


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Post16-03-2006, 17:29    Subject: Fuel Injector Issues: Low Performance Causes Quote

Hey, thank you so much for the explanations. I'll keep at it and continue searching.
The rotor disc looked relatively good - more like new. I wonder how that compares to another one...

A feather is not broken.

I didn't have any error codes stored, but I'll check again just to be sure.

The thing with Bosch was obvious... The cost is probably higher than another pump icon_confused.gif.

Greetings, Mathias.


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