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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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07-10-2006, 19:17 Subject: ADAC 10/05: Who still has this issue? |
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hi
I was just lying under the table. Not because of pain from my broken bone, but because of the ADAC Motorwelt magazine.
Winter tires are of particular interest to me: specifically, the Conti TS800 versus the Goodyear UG7.
Last year, I wanted to buy the TS800, but I didn't because ADAC (a German automobile club) gave it a very negative review regarding its performance in wet conditions. So instead, I bought the highly praised UG7.
What is ADAC doing this year? They're simply reversing the rankings, without providing explanations like "different rubber compound" or anything like that. This year, the UG7 has been downgraded due to its wet grip rating, while the TS800 is considered the top performer.
Do they really think that we, as consumers/members, are that stupid?
Unfortunately, I've already recycled the old ADAC Motorwelt issue from October 2005...
Okay, please provide the German text you would like me to translate into English. I will only provide the translation. Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
Translated on 20-08-2026, 22:26.
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guste100 Profi-Schrauber


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08-10-2006, 11:57 Subject: ADAC 10/05: Who still has this issue? |
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Didn't you say the article could be found online? I haven't looked yet, but the old tests should also be available in the members' area.
P.S. I've only been a member since the summer of this year, so I can't really help with the printed edition.
Best regards,
Sure.
Here is the translation of the text from German to English:
"Guste" means "gust" in English. It can also be used as a verb, meaning "to gust."
Translated on 20-08-2026, 22:28.
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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08-10-2006, 12:08 Subject: ADAC 10/05: Who still has this issue? |
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Sure, here's the translation:
"no"
The tests themselves are available online based on the results, but the additional commentary is not.
However, last year's tests were based on tires of size 195/65 R15 and 175/65 R14, while this year's tests are using tires of size 185/60 R14.
"However, I am satisfied with my 185/60 R14 Goodyear UG7 tires and will also recommend them in the size 196/65 R15."
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Goodyear UG7, cross-aquaplaning.
test 2005: 195 65 15 Grade 0.5
test 2006: 185 60 14 Grade: 3.5
Did someone spill coffee on the measurement log? Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
Translated on 20-08-2026, 22:30.
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w123diesel Blaumann

Joined: 11/23/2003 Posts: 55 Karma: +7 / -1 Location: Pfalz
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08-10-2006, 15:18 Subject: ADAC 10/05: Who still has this issue? |
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Translated on 20-08-2026, 22:31.
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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08-10-2006, 17:47 Subject: ADAC 10/05: Who still has this issue? |
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yes
I know all of this data.
However, for me, only one explanation seems plausible for these results:
The fruits are so incredibly similar in quality that the only factor differentiating the results is the sugar content in the morning coffee consumed by the tester.
"Look, they're all good, and because of that, you have to differentiate so extremely that sometimes you get a score of 0.5 and other times a score of 3.5."
Okay, please provide the German text you would like me to translate into English. I will only provide the translation. Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
Translated on 20-08-2026, 22:32.
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w123diesel Blaumann

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09-10-2006, 14:19 Subject: ADAC 10/05: Who still has this issue? |
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The fact is that when you buy a branded tire, you are usually making the right choice.
It would also be helpful to know what vehicles were used for the tests.
It wouldn't be wise to underestimate that. Every tire performs slightly differently on various vehicles.
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06-11-2006, 9:11 Subject: ADAC 10/05: Who still has this issue? |
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I share that opinion as well.
Alpin A2... works very well, Bridgestone Blizzak works very well, Continental also works very well, I have never been satisfied with Uniroyal (UG) tires... purely my subjective opinion.
But regarding the ADAC, I can only say: ...a creature that lays eggs, produces wool, and gives milk... does such a thing even exist?!
Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:
'cu' is a Spanish abbreviation for 'con usted,' which means 'with you.' It is often used in online communication and social media as a way to express affection or intimacy.
Here are some examples of how 'cu' can be used:
* 'Te amo cu!' (I love you!)
* 'Eres mi todo cu.' (You are my everything.)
* 'No puedo vivir sin ti cu.' (I can't live without you.)
It is important to note that the use of 'cu' may not be appropriate in all situations. For example, it would likely be inappropriate to use 'cu' when communicating with someone who is older than you or who you do not know well.
Translated on 20-08-2026, 22:34.
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