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20-11-2002, 12:06 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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Hello.
Does anyone know the exact differences between the 1Z and AFN engines?
What is the performance difference based on?
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Bertil Profi-Schrauber

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20-11-2002, 13:00 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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1. See /viewtopic.php?p=8260#8260
2. Use the search function!
3. Yes, I know the differences between the 1Z and the AFN engines. The engines and their components are completely different (turbocharger, ESP, EDC, etc.). The difference in performance is mainly due to a different engine concept. The 1Z has a wastegate turbocharger, while the AFN has a variable geometry turbocharger (VTG). The AFN also has a different fuel injection pump.
... Gruß Bertil
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20-11-2002, 13:05 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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Hello didl,
The changes are:
modified intake manifold
modified injection profile
Fuel injectors with larger nozzles.
Variable geometry turbocharger.
reinforced piston
Dual-mass flywheel.
Generator free running.
Improved oil cooling.
alternative boost pressure control.
another control unit.
Hello.
Wolfgang.
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20-11-2002, 16:45 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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Thank you!
Finally, a friendly and reasonable response!
Are these all the changes?
Were any other bearings installed?
Best regards,
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Bertil Profi-Schrauber

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20-11-2002, 18:07 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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didl wrote: | Thank you!
Finally, a friendly and reasonable response!
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It's up to you. If someone asks the question twice, it can quickly lead to misunderstandings.
Because the question about the AFN (Arbeitsfreie Nummer, a type of German phone number) is actually answered in the link under MeckisFaq.
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Are these all the changes?
Were any other bearings installed?
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Yes, other types of bearings have also been installed!
Are you seriously trying to turn a 1Z into an AFN?
Try to get a chassis with a good engine, and then completely replace the engine in your own car. Even if it's a lot of work.
Keep in mind that a new fuel injection pump already costs around 2000 euros (slightly cheaper from Bosch). By the way, the fuel injection lines are also different. Gruß Bertil
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21-11-2002, 7:26 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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Try to get a chassis to completely change the engine. Even if it's a lot of work.
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If you have a complete front axle from a butcher's truck, you can install it directly. The conversion will then take 4-6 hours, and you'll definitely pass the technical inspection. And you'll surely find a buyer for your old engine.
You can even reuse the engine wiring harness from a 1Z engine in an AFN engine without any modifications.
In the end, I paid an extra 1000 DM for the AFN.
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Bertil Profi-Schrauber

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21-11-2002, 8:29 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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Varianti wrote: | ...
If you have a complete front axle from a butcher's truck, you can install it directly. The conversion will then take 4-6 hours, and you'll definitely pass the technical inspection. And you'll surely find a buyer for your old engine.
You can even reuse the engine wiring harness from a 1Z engine in an AFN engine without any modifications.
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Hi Varianti,
Unfortunately, the AFN engine wasn't available in the Audi 80 (B4). That means Didl has a slightly more complicated problem. He'll have to source the parts from the VAG parts catalog. Gruß Bertil
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21-11-2002, 9:06 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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Unfortunately, the AFN engine was not available in the Audi 80 (B4). Didl has a slightly more complicated problem. He will have to source the parts from the VAG parts catalog...
Hi.
That's exactly my problem. That's why I want to upgrade my 1Z.
I actually want to install a larger turbo (130hp pump-injector system, different injectors, S2 or RS2 intercooler, Gruppe A exhaust system, stronger bearings, etc.). I might also get a pump-injector transmission, but I'm not sure which one will fit yet.
Will my Audi 1z wiring harness at least fit the VW Afn engine?
Best regards, didl.
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Bertil Profi-Schrauber

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21-11-2002, 9:38 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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didl wrote: | ...
Will my Audi 1z wiring harness at least fit the VW Afn engine?
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For the Golf, Varianti wrote:
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You can even reuse the engine wiring harness from a 1Z engine in an AFN engine without any modifications.
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Depending on the ESP version (8-pin or 10-pin), that might actually be correct. Gruß Bertil
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22-11-2002, 11:45 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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If the problem is only related to the ESP, then I'll just modify my old one; it's the same thing, right?
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Bertil Profi-Schrauber

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22-11-2002, 12:31 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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didl wrote: | | If it were to fail solely due to the ESP, then I would simply modify my old one, since it's the same, right? |
... unfortunately, not. The AFN pump has a completely different injection pattern and different maximum pressures (see Wolfgang's reply, syncro16).
However, it is easily possible to convert the wiring harness from 8 to 10 pins. Gruß Bertil
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22-11-2002, 15:01 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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The AFN also doesn't have a dual-mass flywheel.
I'm saying that because I'm currently having trouble with the G60 flywheel and I was planning to buy one from AFN soon.
I don't know how it looks in AFN engines from A6 models produced between 2001 and mid-2001. But actually, shouldn't AFN just be AFN, period?
Please correct me if anything is wrong.
arne
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ulf Profi-Schrauber

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22-11-2002, 15:21 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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Arne wrote: | | I mean that the AFN also doesn't have a dual-mass flywheel (ZMS). |
Hi Arne,
To the best of my knowledge, AFN has always had a ZMS.
It's also mentioned in the "Motorentechnische Zeitschrift" (a technical journal for engines) in the article about the introduction of the 110 hp TDI engine. Gruß Ulf
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22-11-2002, 19:02 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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Hi Ulf  ,
Is everything okay, Roger?
Are you absolutely sure the AFN engine has a dual-mass flywheel (DMF)? I really don't think so. I still have the flywheel at home. It has a slight wobble. I also have a PDF document about the DMF. Should I take a picture of it? I went to VW, and they told me it's not a DMF either.
I actually wanted to make the G60 version lighter and bring it to the weight of the original TDI disc because it rattles like a jackhammer.
Regards,
arne
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22-11-2002, 22:12 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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Arne wrote: |
Are you absolutely sure that the AFN has a dual-mass flywheel? |
Hi Arne,
I haven't disassembled my tractor yet, but whenever the topic has come up, either here or elsewhere, it has been unanimously assumed that it has a dual-mass flywheel (DMS), partly to dampen the increased torque peaks compared to the single-mass version. And that magazine confirms this as well.
Of course, none of this is an absolute guarantee of accuracy... Gruß Ulf
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Thomas Profi-Schrauber

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23-11-2002, 19:36 Subject: 1Z vs. AFN Engine: Differences and Comparison |
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Hi Arne,
Just for the sake of it.
What do you mean by that?
Quote: | | ... it rattles like a vibrating plate. | ?
Could you describe how that feels for you?
What exactly does making things easier achieve?
Does the engine not rev up faster?
Greetings.
Thomas. -----------------------------------------------------
Golf 3 TDI AFN Bj. 1997 -verkauft
Audi S2 ADU Bj. 1993
Polo 86c 2F 1W Bj. 1994 - verkauft
Audi A3 TDI ASZ Bj. 2001
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