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Cheffe Blaumann

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06-07-2005, 12:29 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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Hello,
I want to retrofit a glow plug relay (GRA) to my Golf 3 (engine code: ALE). VW offers a retrofit kit (part number: 1H0 998 527). However, according to VW, this kit is only compatible with engines 1Z, AHU, and AFN and is not supposed to work with the ALE engine. I do have the four-pin connector (in the footwell) for connecting to the GRA.
Can you confirm VW's statement that it doesn't work?
Regards,
Boss.
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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06-07-2005, 13:16 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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Yeah, yeah, VW says a lot.
They also don't know that the AHU Kat fits the 1Z model, and it would be better to install it if the Kat and flexible duct need to be replaced.
They're looking at the computer and not reading the instructions, so there's no solution for that.
Based on the analysis, very little is actually integrated into the ALE system because the mapping doesn't work correctly for many components.
Just try it out  .
I bet it works.
Here is the blueprint for part number 1H0 998 527.
http://people.freenet.de/golf-schrauber/Billisch_GRA.jpg
You must have the 028 906 021 HD engine control unit.
I have a 1Z engine and this control unit lying around. When I finally have some time, I'll install it, and the 1Z engine will run with it, along with the GRA (presumably referring to a specific component or system).
m; Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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Cheffe Blaumann

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06-07-2005, 13:25 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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I just checked, and mine is 028 906 021 HD. So, I assume that it should fit. I'll probably get the original retrofit kit, as it looks better aesthetically  .
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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06-07-2005, 13:28 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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No, I misspelled it.
The ALE has the 021 HD. I am not aware of any reason why the HD should not have a GRA.
I have a 1Z engine with part numbers 021 AF and GRA, and I also have a head (cylinder head) in stock.
But unfortunately, I don't have time to try it out (to see if it also works with GRA).
I bet she will.
m; Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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06-07-2005, 13:34 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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Okay, I'll order that sentence. I'll let you know my results later and whether it works.
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Cheffe Blaumann

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07-07-2005, 13:47 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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Okay, I installed the retrofit kit and it works. So, it's also possible to install it in vehicles with the ALE system.
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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07-07-2005, 14:03 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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Wonderful.
Thank you for the feedback.
m; Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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08-07-2005, 13:54 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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What is the price of the installation kit (I have the same engine...)? Wartung statt Schutzbrief!
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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08-07-2005, 14:22 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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from €0.10 to over €100, including installation.
You can install a button yourself (see my budget:GRA) or have the original lever installed - this one, plus VAT.
http://people.freenet.de/golf-schrauber/gra.jpg
m; Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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08-07-2005, 15:38 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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Um, and the other option is 0.10 euros, how is that possible??? Wartung statt Schutzbrief!
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08-07-2005, 18:34 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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isar12 wrote: | | Um, and the other option costs 0.10 Euros, how is that possible??? |
Hmm, have you read what Martin wrote?
dieselmartin wrote: | | You can install a button yourself (see my cheap:GRA) |
and further up, he wrote:
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11-07-2005, 13:46 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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Well, sorry for my shortsightedness. Instead of investing in a GRA (Gemological Research Association certificate), I should probably invest in a pair of glasses first...
@ dieselmartin : It looks so simple, it's hard to believe. Does it actually work, or is this thing from an auction on some online marketplace? Wartung statt Schutzbrief!
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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11-07-2005, 14:25 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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Hey
This is the luxury version, because the switch is unnecessary!
When you bridge the GRA (Ground Relay), it is always on (this is, for example, the standard configuration in Opel cars), and you only need one button... and some wires.
Since I built the part myself on Saturdays, I used wire clips instead of the original connector. However, it only costs 3-4 EUR.
This thing worked so well on my Golf! I almost ran into a city bus out of sheer joy - but that's because it was constantly  .
m; Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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11-07-2005, 15:38 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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Is it electrically the same as the original installation kit?
Would you also tell me where everything connects, so I can have some fun with it too! Wartung statt Schutzbrief!
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11-07-2005, 19:28 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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Here, someone is offering the ultimate luxury version for all vehicles, custom-made to fit! Take a look! A must-have for every TDI!
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4559446273
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12-07-2005, 8:34 Subject: GRA Golf 3 Retrofit Kit |
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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
"Freeloader," that was my idea.
That's exactly what the driving experience is like in a t§ JX with a 2.30 meter high roof  .
m; Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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