VCDS and OBD diagnostic device in the On-Board Diagnostics Shop
Diesel technology, engine technology, vehicle diagnostics, repair & maintenance.

3C: Chiller return line rattles

 
New Topic Reply 🔗 🖨 Dieselschrauber - Index » Diesel Engine Technology
Author Message
dieselmartin
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber
Avatar-dieselmartin

Joined: 03/13/2003
Posts: 10121
Karma: +29 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: in der Werkstatt
2007 Volkswagen Passat
Premium Support

Post02-03-2009, 10:15    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

Hi.

Between the suction nozzle and the LuFiKa, the thin "coolant return" hose runs. It has an extra thickening to prevent it from chafing. Because one end is connected to the motor and vibrates with it, while the other end is fixed to the radiator.

Unfortunately, the hose was lying around very loosely.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to calm him down?

Interestingly, it seems to be quieter when the engine cover is on, because then it presses his "engine end" slightly downwards, which keeps him firmly pressed against the intake manifold.



Kuehler_ruecklauf_klappert.jpg
 Description:
 3C: Chiller return line rattles
 File size:  102.13 KB
 Viewed:  2805 times

Kuehler_ruecklauf_klappert.jpg

Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.

I don't know what the f*ck it was.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
T3Surfer
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 09/17/2004
Posts: 1833
Karma: +34 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Frankurt
2001 Seat Toledo
Premium Support

Post06-03-2009, 21:44    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

I don't see a problem there, or are you hearing that clattering sound? Is there a way to attach it securely nearby, perhaps using a cable tie?
NA,Gehörlose wie ich können auch Schrauben! Ihr HÖRT ich FÜHLE! T3 TD EX-JX Jetzt 1Z mit 122PS und Renaultgetriebe Golf II TD Bj 84 512Tkm Passi 35I 1Z 468Tkm--> Seat Toledo AHF-- Toledo ARL 477Tkm mit Spritspartuning icon_wink.gif 99er T4 Syncro-Cross 100800km grad eingefahren
Back to top Profile PM Email Garage
dieselmartin
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber
Avatar-dieselmartin

Joined: 03/13/2003
Posts: 10121
Karma: +29 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: in der Werkstatt
2007 Volkswagen Passat
Premium Support

Post06-03-2009, 21:56    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

I'm not sure.

However, after the last service, I've noticed a slightly different running noise, particularly around 1300 rpm. Since a sensor was replaced, I initially thought it might be due to a cable touching something. However, the replacement unit has a fixed cable routing on the valve cover.
Since the mechanics at the workshop didn't properly attach the engine cover, I'm currently driving without it, and I've discovered that the "Böppel" (presumably a specific part) is now very loose.

It's a shame so much has changed.
- New woofer (the actual reason).
- alternative engine software.
- without engine cover

Ah icon_wink.gif maybe the horn is poorly wired and resonates at 1300....

m;
Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.

I don't know what the f*ck it was.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
T3Surfer
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 09/17/2004
Posts: 1833
Karma: +34 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Frankurt
2001 Seat Toledo
Premium Support

Post06-03-2009, 22:00    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

Okay, put the engine cover back on because you mentioned that it reduces vibrations! Was the horn working? I can even hear it, even though I don't hear very well, I am deaf! icon_cool.gif Of course, only when I am near the horn. icon_wink.gif
NA,Gehörlose wie ich können auch Schrauben! Ihr HÖRT ich FÜHLE! T3 TD EX-JX Jetzt 1Z mit 122PS und Renaultgetriebe Golf II TD Bj 84 512Tkm Passi 35I 1Z 468Tkm--> Seat Toledo AHF-- Toledo ARL 477Tkm mit Spritspartuning icon_wink.gif 99er T4 Syncro-Cross 100800km grad eingefahren
Back to top Profile PM Email Garage
dieselmartin
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber
Avatar-dieselmartin

Joined: 03/13/2003
Posts: 10121
Karma: +29 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: in der Werkstatt
2007 Volkswagen Passat
Premium Support

Post06-03-2009, 22:06    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

Yes, that's the second low-frequency horn my Passat has eaten.
Two failures in two years - luckily, both were covered by warranty.

m;
Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.

I don't know what the f*ck it was.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
dieselmartin
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber
Avatar-dieselmartin

Joined: 03/13/2003
Posts: 10121
Karma: +29 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: in der Werkstatt
2007 Volkswagen Passat
Premium Support

Post07-03-2009, 2:03    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

I just went for another ride (it's nice and quiet at night).

Something is squeaking in the engine compartment. It could also be caused by changes to the injection parameters introduced by the software update.

It sounds more like a knocking or fluttering – perhaps it's just one of those aluminum fabric covers above the DPF.

I hate this kind of thing...

m;
Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.

I don't know what the f*ck it was.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
dieselschrauber
Administrator
Administrator
Avatar-dieselschrauber

Joined: 04/12/2002
Posts: 17993
Karma: +782 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: St.Gallen
2018 Volkswagen T6 Consumption


Post07-03-2009, 10:37    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

Hi Martin,

Just cut out a thick foam ring and glue it on. For years, there has been a Glitzi sponge under the air filter box of my A3, with the rough side facing the air intake.
Don't worry about the rust on the car; it's just somewhere else.

Best regards, Rainer.
Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Rainer Kaufmann - dieselschrauber VCDS Shop
Back to top Profile PM WWW Garage
dieselmartin
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber
Avatar-dieselmartin

Joined: 03/13/2003
Posts: 10121
Karma: +29 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: in der Werkstatt
2007 Volkswagen Passat
Premium Support

Post11-03-2009, 10:19    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

I'll do something like that.

Or, you can cable-tie the part to the opening in the air duct.
Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.

I don't know what the f*ck it was.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
dieselmartin
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber
Avatar-dieselmartin

Joined: 03/13/2003
Posts: 10121
Karma: +29 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: in der Werkstatt
2007 Volkswagen Passat
Premium Support

Post20-05-2009, 8:09    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

Okay.

That stupid hose never stays where I push it.
Therefore, I secured him (and also the ATM throttle next to the mass airflow sensor):



lufika.jpg
 Description:
 3C: Chiller return line rattles
 File size:  36.96 KB
 Viewed:  2072 times

lufika.jpg


atm_drossel.jpg
 Description:
 3C: Chiller return line rattles
 File size:  49.69 KB
 Viewed:  31535 times

atm_drossel.jpg

Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.

I don't know what the f*ck it was.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
dieselschrauber
Administrator
Administrator
Avatar-dieselschrauber

Joined: 04/12/2002
Posts: 17993
Karma: +782 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: St.Gallen
2018 Volkswagen T6 Consumption


Post20-05-2009, 9:15    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

Cool idea with the heating pipe insulation icon_smile.gif.
Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Rainer Kaufmann - dieselschrauber VCDS Shop
Back to top Profile PM WWW Garage
dieselmartin
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber
Avatar-dieselmartin

Joined: 03/13/2003
Posts: 10121
Karma: +29 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: in der Werkstatt
2007 Volkswagen Passat
Premium Support

Post20-05-2009, 9:20    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

Rainer K. wrote:
Cool idea with the heating pipe insulation icon_smile.gif


Thank you icon_smile.gif.

- cheap
- works.
- If it's too tight, the insulation will be the first thing to rub away - so it won't damage any original parts.

The clip connection "thick U-shaped pipe to LuFiKa inlet" already showed clear signs of wear, so I reinforced it with original VW fabric tape. (Unfortunately, no photos were taken).
Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.

I don't know what the f*ck it was.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
TDI-GTI-4-Motion
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber
Avatar-TDI-GTI-4-Motion

Joined: 02/22/2009
Posts: 3872
Karma: +127 / -0   Thank you, like it!

2002 Volkswagen Golf Consumption
Premium Support

Post20-05-2009, 10:30    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

dieselmartin wrote:
I then reinforced it with original VW fabric tape
.

What kind of tape are you talking about? Could it be the kind I've been looking for forever? This felt material is used to wrap the cable harnesses.
MfG. Michael

VW Golf IV TDI GTI 4-Motion Bj.2002 MKB/GKB: ARL/FEK
VW T4 Pritsche TDI Bj.1999 MKB/GKB: AXG/AFK (Selfmade)
Back to top Profile PM Garage
dieselmartin
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber
Avatar-dieselmartin

Joined: 03/13/2003
Posts: 10121
Karma: +29 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: in der Werkstatt
2007 Volkswagen Passat
Premium Support

Post20-05-2009, 11:18    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

Sure.

Exactly that. I searched for a long time too.
000 979 950 Textile adhesive tape, black, approx. 5.00€ per piece.
Original VW and, surprisingly, even affordable icon_smile.gif.

With Alex, you can see how it is.
http://www.passat3c.info/cms_neu/index.php?page=152

I wrapped a layer of it around the U-shaped tube and then clipped it back into the air filter housing. It's now firmly attached and without any rattling.

m;
Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.

I don't know what the f*ck it was.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
TDI-GTI-4-Motion
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber
Avatar-TDI-GTI-4-Motion

Joined: 02/22/2009
Posts: 3872
Karma: +127 / -0   Thank you, like it!

2002 Volkswagen Golf Consumption
Premium Support

Post20-05-2009, 14:14    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

Thank you very much, Martin. You wouldn't believe how long I've been looking for it. I would never have thought to ask Volkswagen about that.
MfG. Michael

VW Golf IV TDI GTI 4-Motion Bj.2002 MKB/GKB: ARL/FEK
VW T4 Pritsche TDI Bj.1999 MKB/GKB: AXG/AFK (Selfmade)
Back to top Profile PM Garage
wolfi_b
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 02/17/2004
Posts: 860
Karma: +1 / -0   Thank you, like it!


CAN Support

Post25-05-2009, 9:08    Subject: 3C: Chiller return line rattles Quote

Hockey tape also works quite well icon_wink.gif
1993 Audi 80 B4 1Z
2004 Seat Leon 1M ASV
Back to top Profile PM
New Topic Reply 🔗 🖨 Dieselschrauber - Index » Diesel Engine Technology
Similar articles and topics
Topic Forum
No new posts AJM Motor - Motor klappert, Leistungsmangel, Schwarzrauch Faults & Documentation (Audi, VW, Seat/Cupra, Skoda)
No new posts Gurtschloß T6 klappert Transmission, Chassis, Body & Interior
No new posts Hydrostössel klappert bei Passat 3BG MKB AVF Diesel Engine Technology
No new posts Ibiza 1,9TDI mit BPX klappert. Diesel Engine Technology
No new posts Golf 3 Diesel 1Y klappert Diesel Engine Technology
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.