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25-03-2010, 10:58 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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Hi,
Does anyone perhaps know a link, or could someone send me a schematic diagram of the hydraulic coupler in the Bosch piezo inline injector?
It would be interesting to see how this thing is constructed, and especially how the hydraulic transmission works.
While Bosch and Google offer schematics, it's impossible to find a functional diagram  .
Greetings.
John. selber schrauben - statt Werkstattpfusch
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25-03-2010, 11:00 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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Do you mean the cascade of tilting levers that "translate" the movement of the piezo element?
Just like with the PPD:
SSP-352-VW Pump-Nozzle Unit-Piezo Valve Manual / 320467499892
Please link the images you have already found.
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I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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25-03-2010, 11:18 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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In which VAG engines are they installed? Transparency, Teamwork
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I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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25-03-2010, 11:41 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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The 2.0 and 3.0 TDI engines probably have it.
Schon mal BOSCH "Dieselmotor Management" 4. Quantity requested?
The cover already looks like it's advertising a piezo inliner.
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Dieselmotor-Management: Systeme und Komponenten (Bosch Fachinformation Automobil) Gebundene Ausgabe – 15. NNovember 2004.
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I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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25-03-2010, 12:23 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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Yes, I have, but it's not particularly insightful. Often, the websites that are not affiliated with Bosch explain things in a more understandable way. selber schrauben - statt Werkstattpfusch
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25-03-2010, 12:36 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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Have you ever looked at SSP 351? Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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25-03-2010, 13:22 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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vwSchrauber wrote: | | Unfortunately, these things are so new that it's very difficult to find a defective injector that can be disassembled and studied. |
For training purposes, we might be able to find something.
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25-03-2010, 13:51 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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Quote: | | Have you ever looked at | SSP 351 Quote: | ?
Unfortunately, I don't have that (yet).
| For training purposes, we might be able to find something...
Here's the translation:
That raises the question of where they come from. I've always bought things like that as defective items on eBay, and then taken them apart. I find it amusing when you figure out that they were assembled incorrectly, and that's why they didn't (anymore) work }. selber schrauben - statt Werkstattpfusch
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26-03-2010, 16:46 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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There should be plenty of defective injectors available for vehicles manufactured in 2005 and 2006. Gruß Christian
A6 BPP, Ex-A6 AKN (Gurke), Ex-Audi100 92 AAT (5Zyl.)
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28-03-2010, 20:44 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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Is the information you're looking for not available in the 4th edition of the BOSCH Diesel Engine Management manual, starting on page 284?
Or see page 286, "Function of the hydraulic coupling"?
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I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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08-04-2010, 14:01 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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Quote: | Are the BOSCH Diesel Engine Management, 4th Edition, pages 284 and following not providing the desired information?
Or see page 286, "Function of the hydraulic coupling"?
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After studying the relevant pages, I have now recognized a modified "lever principle" here... but it's somehow ingenious.  selber schrauben - statt Werkstattpfusch
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08-04-2010, 14:20 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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Is the coupling more like a hydraulic lifter, meaning does it compensate for play?
"Where exactly (and that's why I marked the hints as questions) does the 'translation' occur, i.e., the change in force and displacement?"
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09-04-2010, 9:00 Subject: Hydraulic Translation Bosch Piezo Injector |
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He already has a level playing field, but the power transmission to the servo valve is purely hydraulic, unlike the solenoid injector, where the servo valve acts as the core of the electromagnet.
The translation seems to be located within the connector itself, even though Bosch doesn't explicitly mention it. However, if I look at the proportions of the piezo lift relative to the opening stroke of the servo valve (as shown in the diagram), it seems there must be different piston diameters. selber schrauben - statt Werkstattpfusch
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