Gasoline in TDI

Hi.

A brief report on my experience:

Golf 5 BLS, with approximately 30 km of range left, so almost empty.
I filled up 12.76 liters of gasoline, then stopped abruptly because I got startled.

It's not possible to insert a hose completely through the fuel filler neck; a hose inside will bend and get stuck somewhere before reaching the end.

Okay, so (I managed to get it here) I'm starting with the Difi (thank you Bertil, thank you Hendrik), and the fuel pump relay J17 is shorted, causing the pump to spin rapidly and make a foaming sound. Wait, then short it again. We repeated this back-and-forth process about 15 times.

We were able to remove the nearly 20 liters of soup in about 1 hour.

I flushed out another 5 liters of diesel, added 5 liters of fresh diesel, and then drove to the gas station to fill up the tank.

Error in the engine control unit (ECU) cleared after the J17 connector was disconnected.

It is still running .

Greetings.
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EDITH: In retrospect, it's better to: IMMEDIATELY disconnect the J17 connector - this prevents anything from being powered, even if you turn on the ignition to tow the vehicle.

I think that will remain the case... by the way, what made you notice that the stitching was loose? Was it the price? Did you happen to check the pole?

Therefore, I ask because I always fill my car up at the cheapest gas stations, and when I rarely visit stations like Aral and others, I always have to pay close attention to make sure I'm getting SuperDiesel and not MegaDiesel...

Okay, I was just the one who drove the car - my wife filled it up with gas at a full-service gas station.

She drove gasoline cars for 15 years, and last year I got her a TDI.
With my last car (a Corsa B), we spent a long time trying to figure out whether it needed premium or regular gasoline (back then, there was a noticeable difference), so yesterday's situation reminded me of that, and it seems like they made a mistake.
After 12.76 liters, the big "AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" moment arrived.
Fortunately, she didn't start the engine, and I only turned the ignition once to make it roll away.

However, I have to agree with you that I find the product name "SuperDiesel" at Aral quite ridiculous. But it probably dates back to the 60s and 70s, when diesel cars were still "tractors without studded tires," and an Opel Rekord 2.0 had 10 horsepower more than the standard Rekord 2.0. Here, the sporty characteristics of a gasoline engine are somehow being transferred to a diesel engine (when you refuel at Aral).

It's also annoying that lead-free nozzles fit into diesel filler necks, and on the Golf 5, they fit much better than diesel nozzles, because the filler neck on the G5 has very strange, restrictive guides.

Now I just need to burn off the over 20 liters of mixture - but for that, I'm relying on the T4 with its AAB multi-fuel ship diesel engine .

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It will probably taste good when it's stretched like that.
Since "Super" and gasoline have become so common, and there are now several gas stations that only offer "Super," which, in my opinion, makes sense. Narrower product range, less maintenance, and who knows what else.

When you're at a great brand's gas station and instead of having 3 grades of fuel to choose from, you're faced with a (exaggerated) selection of 8, things like this can really happen, and no one is immune to it. I usually fill up the gas tank on the way back from work, and then I've already forgotten about it when I get home... it's become so automated, like buckling your seatbelt, it just happens .

Yes.

after everything was working again, we went to fill up the tank - at Aral .

SuperDiesel in the Golf - UltimateDiesel in the Passat - and STAY AWAY from those thin snouts .

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"What benefits does the Ultimate Diesel engine offer for the Passat?"

I once tried it on a 1.4 HDI engine, and I only noticed a softer engine sound, reminiscent of older VW naturally aspirated diesel engines (when warm!), which is what my 206 exhibits only when cold (presumably with a shifted injection timing and possibly increased injection quantities). The 1.4 HDI engine sounds relatively soft and smooth at temperatures slightly above freezing, but it tends to sound more "raspy" when it's warm.

Okay, one more off-topic comment: Recently, on my way home, Shell was the cheapest option, while the rest (including my usual stations like Star and HEM) had already increased their prices. Currently, I'm still using Shell's "Superdiesel," and even the sound of the engine is different compared to the fuel I usually get from other gas stations. What's different about this "Superdiesel" that's also heavily advertised on the radio? Where does this effect come from?

To my knowledge, Aral Ultimate Diesel is the only diesel fuel that is completely free of biodiesel, because the GTL component is counted towards the biodiesel quota.
Since the BMR (presumably a type of engine) has a tendency to close its injection ports, I want to avoid sending too much resin-like material through it.

Maybe I'm exaggerating.

Since I used to visit Luxembourgian gas stations quite often, it didn't hurt my finances *too* much.

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To my knowledge, the Aral Ultimate Diesel is the only biodiesel-free product, because the GTL is counted towards the biofuel quota.

Aral Ultimate does not contain GTL.
This is only available with Shell's V-Power Diesel.

I'm not entirely sure what they're doing specifically in Ultimate.

Hello Martin,

That turned out well after all. That's exactly how one needs to act in this case.
The damage is limited and is unlikely to have any long-term consequences.

I think the biggest scare you got was when I asked if the ignition was on ...... Well, the pre-lift pump contaminates the entire fuel system with the wrong fuel.

Therefore, your advice is very important: IMMEDIATELY disconnect the J17 connector - this prevents anything from being activated.

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(thank you Bertil, thank you Hendrik)

You're welcome... That was support spanning the entire country...

Hi,

Well, I wouldn't have been that cowardly.
I also picked up 2 liters of low-ash oil from the shop, added it, then filled the tank with (premium) diesel, and it's ready to go again...
PD is, in principle, also motor oil lubricated .

It's possible that there might be some jerking or vibration during the DPF regeneration process, as the fuel that's reluctant to ignite during late injection might not burn as cleanly.

@Hutfahrer: It seems that HDIs also tolerate gasoline quite well. I know of a case where someone filled the tank with gasoline. The engine then ran for a while with a noticeable rattling sound, and only stopped starting after being turned off. The fuel tank was drained, the system was flushed, and it's been running fine ever since.

I don't want to try it...

vwSchrauber wrote:

PD is, in principle, also motor oil lubricated . ...

Unfortunately, the sensitive high-pressure components of the PD elements receive not a single drop of engine oil and are lubricated exclusively by diesel fuel...

With your method, late consequences would even be guaranteed.

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It's a pity that the sensitive high-pressure components of the PD elements don't receive a single drop of engine oil and are lubricated exclusively by diesel fuel...

Which one are you referring to? Basically, I would only be concerned about the pump piston. The rest (valve needle, hydraulic valve, etc.) The pre-injection, injector needle, and other related components should remain unaffected.

I'm going to the truck fuel pump, but I definitely won't be getting gasoline there.
Anyone who has any objections, please speak up now.

Me too. It's faster, as it's usually empty there...

You can't fit a truck's front end into a Golf.

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