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18-10-2010, 15:21 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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Hi.
I just finished painting a small scratch (with metallic paint and a clear coat).
"At the earliest, when can I use a color touch-up to blend the roots a little?"
m; Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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TDI-GTI-4-Motion Profi-Schrauber


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18-10-2010, 15:33 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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How should I paint it? With a spray can or a spray gun? Does it also need to be polished? MfG. Michael
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18-10-2010, 16:02 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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Hello,
The drying time is highly dependent on temperature, so please be cautious given the current temperatures.
At 20°C, with properly mixed automotive paint (hardener, thinner, paint) and a normal layer thickness, you can expect approximately 1 day of drying time. However, the exact drying times are usually specified in the processing instructions for each specific product.
The spray can from the hardware store works a bit faster, but it's only suitable for temporary, low-cost solutions.
Best regards, Rainer.
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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18-10-2010, 18:18 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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Can in the heated garage
Should the edges be sanded with 600 grit sandpaper or something similar?
I was planning to treat it only with red and white polishing compound.
But even with just the initial layers, it already looks better than the previous state, which was "scratched except for the primer."
m; Transparency, Teamwork
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18-10-2010, 18:47 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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Apply in a thin, even coat, and wait at least 24 hours before applying another coat. Make sure the temperature is around 20 degrees Celsius. If you're a perfectionist, consider waiting an extra day before applying the next coat. You might be able to park it next to a heater. Automobile Zeitzeugen: |SUZUKI Swift Sport (2008)| |Smart 450 (2002)| |Honda CB 125 F (2018)|
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18-10-2010, 19:23 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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dieselmartin wrote: | | Do you sand the edges with 600 grit or something similar? | NO! You will never get it smooth again. Do it the way Hutfahrer says, and it's 100% correct.  MfG. Michael
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18-10-2010, 21:48 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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Oops
Where can I get some 2000s [clothes/music/etc.]?
I guess I'll have to search here... or maybe I'll ask Volkswagen  .
Since the garage is going to be cooler again anyway, I'll do it later in the week.
Thank you.
m; Transparency, Teamwork
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18-10-2010, 22:07 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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dieselmartin wrote: | | Where can I get some 2000er from? |
It's actually found in almost every public restroom, in roll form. *loud laughter*
No, you can usually find it at any accessory supplier (like Stahlgruber, Leise, etc.). I mean, I think I've even seen some in the hardware store before.
P.S. 1600 grit also works, but you might need to polish for about 2 seconds longer.  MfG. Michael
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19-10-2010, 7:01 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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And: Use plenty of water, and rinse away the sanding dust frequently, and rinse the paper thoroughly! It's best to use a soft block of natural rubber as a sanding aid. Place the paper on top of it. It provides some pressure, but doesn't pose the risk of rounding off the edges.
By the way, "2000 grit" (Koernung) is the finest sandpaper you can still easily buy, for example, at a hardware store. Be patient when sanding, rinse it frequently, and check the results. You can also use polishing paste (even a mild one) afterwards. But only after you're finished with everything!
Thank you for the plus point!  Automobile Zeitzeugen: |SUZUKI Swift Sport (2008)| |Smart 450 (2002)| |Honda CB 125 F (2018)|
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19-10-2010, 23:48 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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You can also use polishing paste afterwards (even a very mild one!). But only after you're finished with everything!
You'll have to polish over it anyway, as those areas will naturally become slightly dull. Even with 2000's 
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20-10-2010, 6:21 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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That's right!  I actually meant that the paste should only be applied after the sanding work is finished. As a sort of "finale"... Automobile Zeitzeugen: |SUZUKI Swift Sport (2008)| |Smart 450 (2002)| |Honda CB 125 F (2018)|
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21-10-2010, 14:36 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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I once polished something with a 2000-grit abrasive in a less conspicuous spot.
The red and white paste doesn't give a glossy finish anymore; it remains matte.
Therefore, I'll leave it as it is for now (at least it's blue and not that primer beige anymore), and let nature take care of it. It's right in front of the front wheel, which is the dirtiest spot.
Thank you for all your help.
m; Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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21-10-2010, 14:45 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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dieselmartin wrote: | | The red and white paste won't get shiny anymore; it will remain matte. | Yes, a good polish is also called 3M!  MfG. Michael
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21-10-2010, 20:39 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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Oh... Kay.
then I have to go shopping again  .
Does she have a first name?
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21-10-2010, 20:49 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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Abrasive compound PLUS.
3M Part Number: 50417
Cap color: Green.
Cost: Approximately 40€ per kilogram, unfortunately, it's only available in kilogram-sized bottles.
Actually, this is a polishing compound designed for machine use. However, it can also be used by hand for small areas, but be sure to apply firm pressure and use quick movements. If you work too slowly with it, it will create countless scratches in the paint. So, be careful!
My tip: Go to your local paint shop, and hand the owner a 10-euro bill; it usually works.  MfG. Michael
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22-10-2010, 7:15 Subject: Freshly painted - when to buff |
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Quote: | | Michael wrote: My tip: Go to your local paint shop, and give the guy a 10-euro bill, it usually works. |
Correct! That's the most economical solution. The painter will be concerned with maintaining his (good?) reputation and will want to deliver a good result, even on seemingly minor tasks. Automobile Zeitzeugen: |SUZUKI Swift Sport (2008)| |Smart 450 (2002)| |Honda CB 125 F (2018)|
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