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How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP

 
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Wie oft glüht Ihr bei Kälte vor? (Trennung VEP CR und PD beachten)
Einmal vorglühen reicht völlig, danach geht der Motor sofort problemlos an - VEP
39%
 39%  [ 22 ]
Einmal vorglühen reicht völlig, danach geht der Motor sofort problemlos an - CR
8%
 8%  [ 5 ]
Einmal vorglühen reicht völlig, danach geht der Motor sofort problemlos an - PD
42%
 42%  [ 24 ]
Ich muß zwei- bis dreimal vorglühen damit der Motor ohne langes Orgeln zügig startet - VEP
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
Ich muß zwei- bis dreimal vorglühen damit der Motor ohne langes Orgeln zügig startet - CR
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Ich muß zwei- bis dreimal vorglühen damit der Motor ohne langes Orgeln zügig startet - PD
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
Ich muß mehr als dreimal hintereinander vorglühen und der Motor startet nur sehr widerwillig - VEP
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Ich muß mehr als dreimal hintereinander vorglühen und der Motor startet nur sehr widerwillig - CR
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Ich muß mehr als dreimal hintereinander vorglühen und der Motor startet nur sehr widerwillig - PD
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 56

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Post23-11-2010, 11:25    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

I'm interested in knowing how long/how often you pre-warm your vehicles in cold weather (below 5°C) for the first cold start of the day/during the winter, to ensure the engine starts cleanly.

Of course, we are assuming that the glow plug system, battery, etc. are all in good working order!
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The survey is divided into sections for VEP, CR, and PD engines. Please post any additional information (e.g., engine code, year of manufacture, mileage) in the thread.

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Post23-11-2010, 11:41    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

Not at all... Just put the key in and it's good to go. I only start to notice the preheating function when the temperature is significantly below 0°C, and then it only runs for as long as the car itself deems necessary. With a battery that's over 8 years old, I don't have enough power left for more than one glow plug cycle before starting icon_smile.gif.
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Post23-11-2010, 11:46    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

matthiasTDI96 wrote:
not at all... just put the key in and it's good to go.


Absolutely!

Even after almost 198,000 km, the AXR engine starts without any issues. It also starts spontaneously even in low temperatures (last winter, -15°C). Initially a bit "shaky," but then completely calm.
Since I've been driving gasoline cars for two years, I often forget to preheat them, even. icon_redface.gif
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Post23-11-2010, 12:16    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

BUK - Starts easily, but then tends to shake and produce white-blue smoke - the colder it is, the more noticeable it is.
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ASZ - Starts like a BUK, but even a little bit better. Subsequently, there was significantly less shaking and smoking, or even none at all.
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Post23-11-2010, 12:55    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

It only starts when the light is off. Then, the washing machine runs without shaking, but there's a brief buzzing or creaking sound before it runs perfectly fine.

My old 1Z started with a preheating time of approximately 5-8 seconds at -30°C.

Only my Ducati causes problems in the winter icon_lol.gif.
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Post23-11-2010, 14:46    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

Hello!
Below 0°C, preheating becomes increasingly important. The duration is specified and followed by the engine control unit (ECU). Then it starts willingly and, of course, a bit louder than in the summer.
I can also start the engine at -10°C without needing to use the glow plugs. Then he revs the engine briefly and, as a result, releases a large puff of smoke (despite the open DPF).
By the way, the battery is the original one. It currently has 152,000 km on it.
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Post23-11-2010, 15:18    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

It is clearly missing the option for zero glow icon_smile.gif.
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Post23-11-2010, 16:20    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

matthiasTDI96 wrote:
Therefore, the option to select "zero times" for the heating process is clearly missing icon_smile.gif
. The possibility to select multiple points is also missing. I am using VEP and PD. For what should I vote? Unfortunately, neither of those options works.
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Post23-11-2010, 16:25    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

...one has to be able to make a decision...icon_smile.gif take a winter car...icon_smile.gif
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Post23-11-2010, 18:05    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

My Audi (AWX) generally starts by sputtering. It then produces smoke and shakes a few times. However, this has been happening for the 9th time now. Year with nearly 78,000 kilometers and the first spark plugs, but the second battery (replaced last year as a precaution!).

The Touran (BKD) also generally starts using the glow plug, and it starts immediately, although it has a relatively abrupt 'jolt' that I find a bit harsh. It's now 6 years old. Year and currently 89,000 KM; first glow plugs, first bacteria icon_wink.gif.
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Post23-11-2010, 18:50    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

mTDI: Glow plug system not connected, but usually preheated with a auxiliary heater. It also starts without any problems even at -10°C, icon_rolleyes.gif.
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Post23-11-2010, 19:23    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

Peugeot 206 1.4 HDI: According to my recollection, its coldest start was at -24 degrees Celsius. It had been parked outside from Sunday evening to Friday afternoon for professional reasons, so it was thoroughly frozen. The sound from the starter motor didn't sound promising, but then it lurched and the engine started. Before that, it had shown the glow plugs for 15 seconds (measured with a stopwatch). The system would still benefit from afterglow even below approximately 5-6 degrees Celsius, but it's usually turned off to save power. During this extreme start, the car emitted a biting, foul-smelling blue-white cloud that filled the parking space. The engine also wouldn't respond to the accelerator, so it was impossible to drive. It took approximately 3 minutes for the engine to start taking fuel, after which it continued to run for several more minutes, making a very loud and noticeable sputtering noise.

But what happens normally? Below 7-8 degrees Celsius, the glow plugs don't activate at all. There's a brief electrical pulse sent to all the glow plugs, which serves as a function check. Below approximately 5 degrees Celsius, the glow indicator is lit for 1 to 5 seconds, after which the glow plugs are de-energized. If the engine is running, they will continue to be powered for about 3 minutes at reduced power, and then be switched off. Below 0 degrees Celsius, the glow indicator is visible for at least 5 seconds, and the glow plugs are then switched off for starting. If the engine is running, they will be powered at reduced power until a certain temperature is reached in the coolant. I tried to track this using OBD. The sensor available to the maintenance team and which I read shows a temperature between 55 and 70 degrees Celsius at the time the heating system is switched off. Therefore, it is possible that a different sensor is being used here. The range seems quite large to me.
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Post23-11-2010, 21:30    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

Do you often have to prime the pump?
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Post23-11-2010, 21:37    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

Hello!

My Golf ALH always requires the full preheating time specified in the manual when it's cold. Advertisement displayed.
even when temperatures are below freezing (0°C or 32°F). And that's with almost 250,000 kilometers on the odometer.
I would particularly like to emphasize that last winter, when temperatures dropped below -20°C,
I just tested the glow plugs, just to be on the safe side. Without a specific reason, just out of caution and boredom:
And look at this: 3 of them were defective. "I keep the Golf in the workshop, even in extreme temperatures, mainly for things like defrosting."
"However, even with only one working glow plug, it started without any problems, even in temperatures around -10°C."
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Post23-11-2010, 22:42    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

Leon ARL: It hasn't been preheated until today's temperatures (around -1°C), and as long as it runs smoothly after starting, it will continue to do so.
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Post23-11-2010, 23:58    Subject: How often does your engine glow (?? - 5°C)? - PD, CR, and VEP Quote

slightly off-topic,
But why don't many of you glow?
Laziness or simply a desire for the spark plugs to last longer?
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