Küberl Chip: Where does the black cable go?

Help, where does the black cable go?
Küberl connector?
Mass or ignition plus????

Hi.

Did you receive the part used, without an installation manual?

The pump cable harness essentially provides everything a power connector needs: ignition power, ground, and the wiring for the control signal outputs.

The black cable might be a switching wire (on/off). My car alarm system also has something like that, and it's activated via ground. When the system is running, you can measure a voltage of approximately 8 volts on that wire. If you connect the wire to ground, the system is deactivated.

If the electronics are intended to be more sophisticated, they might also want to receive the LMM signal. In that case, there probably wouldn't be any significant voltage to measure on the bare wire when it's in operation.

Hello!

I received a Küberl tuning chip as a gift. Unfortunately, the instructions are missing, and no one knows where that black cable is supposed to be connected.
I've heard different opinions - some say permanent power, while others suggest ignition plus. I drive a Golf IV TDI with 110 horsepower.
Which of the two options is correct?

Thank you in advance!

Hi,

'That part has as much to do with a 'tuning chip' as the Easter Bunny has to do with laying eggs.'
2. If the black wire is the only wire present (aside from the pump cable connectors),
Once it comes out of the box and my documents are confirmed to be correct via the scanner, that's when...
Masse des LM311, der die Einschaltverzögerung macht, geschaltet. The wire.
You need to go big! If you're worried, add 1k as a safety margin in series.

Best regards, Rudi.

Thank you for the quick response, Rudi!

Yes, I know that the box has little to do with chip tuning. I'm still very critical of the thing, but as I said, I got it as a gift, and as the saying goes, you don't look a gift horse in the mouth .

Okay, I connected the box to the negative terminal of the battery. Is it also possible to connect it this way instead of using the ground of the LM311 (I have no idea what that is)?

After the installation, I noticed a slight increase in performance. However, I then contacted Kübler Tuning to confirm whether my impression was correct. I received the following response, which made me very concerned:

'To provide you with more accurate information, I need a copy of the invoice to confirm that this is a Kübler product.'
But a small tip: The black cable should be connected to the ignition positive terminal (PIN 15).
'Please provide the text you would like me to translate from German to English.'

Unfortunately, I no longer have the invoice. However, I believe it's a matter of quantity.

Hi,

The LM311 is a comparator housed within the enclosure, and it controls (via a relay, also within the enclosure).
The 10-cent tuning (it's not much more!) delays the activation (so that the power-on test of the...
ECU not in limp mode (ends).
Without a mass at the comparator, the relay cannot be activated, and the vehicle...
acts like a sitcom.
You can get the ground connection from the negative terminal of the battery.

My information refers to the status of the box with the old (8-pin) connector.
It is possible to adapt the Küberl to the 10-pin connector as part of a redesign.
He modified the circuit slightly.

Best regards,
Rudi

Bullshit!

Don't waste your money on junk like power boxes or similar products.

There's nothing better than good, custom-programmed maps in the original engine control unit (ECU)!!!


Regards,
DJ.

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dj1 wrote:

There's nothing better than well-programmed calibration maps in the original control unit!!! Yes, yes - but how can an average person

reliably obtain good datasets that don't unnecessarily stress the material?

Okay, please don't mention any well-known tuners or brands. While you might trust big names, they could also be selling generic, low-quality software (from companies like "eggedöns," etc.) with fancy marketing, which could damage the engine more than a well-designed and properly configured power box.

Hi,

I keep seeing 'Egedön' mentioned here. Who is that? Is there a link or address? Google only finds 3 links related to this forum.

Regards,
Micha.

Edit ulf:
The largest virtual marketplace for junk and rare bargains, commonly known as 'Ih-Bäh' .

Edit: Ulf just edited my post, the meanie!

Hello,
probably meant 'eBay nonsense'!
Best regards,
Günther.

There's nothing better than well-programmed calibration maps in the original control unit!!!
Yes, yes - but how can an average person reliably obtain good datasets that don't unnecessarily stress the material?

Now, please don't give me answers like 'renowned tuners' etc. - while you can believe in big names, they could also sell 08/15 cheap software (from egedöns etc.) with high-gloss advertising, which could damage the engine more than a well-designed/configured power box.


Otto Normalkunde needs to do a little research (by talking to friends, checking forums, reading experiences, etc.).
Then you'll quickly find the best ones, because there aren't many of them.

dj1 wrote:

Otto Normalkunde has to do a little research (friends, forums, experiences, etc.). Then you quickly find the best ones, because there aren't many of them.

And what kind of answers does one typically get from such sources?

Usually, it's either something like "running great so far, no problems" (although something might break tomorrow), or subjective things like "bad service," "friendly treatment," "terrible website," etc., which of course doesn't say anything about the expertise behind the tuning.

Tell me with an explanation which ones you think are the best - because apparently you know (unlike the general public).

Hi,

So, I went to a tuner who has over 20 years of experience (1. Reason ).
Mein Bruder hatte 2 Autos bei ihm - war sehr zufrieden (2. Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

'Reasoning).'
A friend had his TDi engine tuned there, and he/she is still very happy with it after over 60,000 km (3. Reason ).

Satisfied?




Regards,
DJ.

PS: When a motor is tuned, it's obvious that some parts won't be able to handle it as well. Either you have to replace everything (transmission, clutch, etc.), or you have to be realistic about how much power you're asking for.

dj1 wrote:

So, I went to a tuner who has over 20 years of experience (1. Reason ). Mein Bruder hatte 2 Auto bei ihm - war sehr zufrieden (2. Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English: "Reasoning)." A friend had his TDi engine tuned there, and he/is still very happy with it after over 60,000 km (3. Reason ). Satisfied?

Now we know that you have some insider knowledge.

But regarding the question of which tuners guarantee to deliver more meaningful/better software than what a well-designed powerbox offers, unfortunately, this doesn't help us at all .