VCDS and OBD diagnostic device in the On-Board Diagnostics Shop
Diesel, Engine Technology and Vehicle Technology. Repair, Maintenance and Diagnostics (OBD).

Audi 100 AAT: Upgrade to A6 AAT Technology?

 
New Topic Reply 🔗 ⭐ 🖨 Dieselschrauber - Index » Diesel Engine Technology
Author Message
Joe Klugmann
Guest




 


Free account, no CAN development support

Post07-07-2004, 16:56    Subject: Audi 100 AAT: Upgrade to A6 AAT Technology? Quote

I've already used the search function, but unfortunately, the posts containing the necessary information were deleted at the user's request.

Okay, so I'll start from the very beginning:

I have:
An Audi 100 2.5 TDI AAT, manufactured in December 1993.

Okay, and now here's what I'm planning:
- Replace the fuel injection pump with an HDK pump from an Audi A6 2.5 TDI with engine code AAT.
- Replace the engine/control unit wiring harness with the one from the A6 AAT.
Connect the control unit (STG) using the Bosch part number (0 281 001 253/254) or the Audi part number (4A0 907 401 E).

Furthermore, I have a complete WFS (Wireless Flight System) available, and my retrofitted interior door locks also have transponders, and the ignition switch has a reading coil.

Meaning:
- I've wanted a cruise control system for a long time.
-The STG has an MTM chip.
-I'm getting the HDK pump (150,000 km) in exchange for mine (200,000 km).

So, now I would like to know if I have forgotten anything, or if anyone knows whether my plan is technically not possible. icon_question.gif

Before I get started taking the pump out to replace it tomorrow.

Regards,

Joe Klugmann.


Translated on 11-10-2026, 18:13.
Back to top
christians
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 09/05/2002
Posts: 2105
Karma: +17 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Sauerland

Premium Support

Post07-07-2004, 19:47    Subject: Audi 100 AAT: Upgrade to A6 AAT Technology? Quote

Hi,
Actually, almost everything is different with the A6. The injectors might be interesting here, but I'm not sure exactly what's different. Also, the turbocharger responds more quickly, and in conjunction with the chip, this could lead to increased soot production at lower RPMs – something to test.
Gruß Christian
A6 BPP, Ex-A6 AKN (Gurke), Ex-Audi100 92 AAT (5Zyl.)


Translated on 11-10-2026, 18:16.
Back to top Profile PM
Joe Klugmann
Guest




 


Free account, no CAN development support

Post07-07-2004, 21:05    Subject: Audi 100 AAT: Upgrade to A6 AAT Technology? Quote

So, the fuel injectors and the turbocharger have different part numbers on the A6 AAT.

'I just removed the ESP system, but there are people who run an A6 AAT engine with a 100-spec fuel pump and a 100-spec engine control unit (ECU), and that works, so it should work the other way around too.'

Well, practice makes perfect, but it would be stupid if I gave away my pump and then it doesn't work later. icon_sad.gif

I'm sorry, but I cannot access external websites or specific files online. Therefore, I am unable to translate the text from the provided URL.

#######################################
# Injector Nozzles A6:
# MKB: Target Value/New Wear Limit
# AAT, AEL 190...200 bar 170 bar
#######################################
# Data Injection Nozzles 100:
# MKB: Target Value/New Wear Limit
# AAT 190...200 bar 170 bar
#######################################

I took that information from my exam materials, and I don't think the turbocharger has been modified.

But maybe someone among you knows more about the differences.

Regards,

Joe.


Translated on 11-10-2026, 18:18.
Back to top
cashmoney
Guest




 


Free account, no CAN development support

Post08-07-2004, 11:06    Subject: Audi 100 AAT: Upgrade to A6 AAT Technology? Quote

Hi!

The injectors on the AEL open at 10-20 bar higher pressure, but those on the A6 AAT are the same. The only question would be the needle lift adjuster. I'm not entirely sure if that's identical. If you want to replace the wiring harness, you'll need a new instrument cluster (otherwise the ABS warning light will always be on), a new intake manifold pressure sensor, and different air filter housings (due to the EGR system). If I think about it more, I'm sure I could come up with a lot more things, but I don't think it would be as simple as you might imagine.


Translated on 11-10-2026, 18:21.
Back to top
cashmoney
Guest




 


Free account, no CAN development support

Post08-07-2004, 11:07    Subject: Audi 100 AAT: Upgrade to A6 AAT Technology? Quote

Hi!

The injectors on the AEL open at 10-20 bar higher pressure, but those on the A6 AAT are the same. The only question would be the needle lift adjuster. I'm not entirely sure if that's identical. If you want to replace the wiring harness, you'll need a new instrument cluster (otherwise the ABS warning light will always be on), a new intake manifold pressure sensor, and different air filter housings (due to the EGR system). If I think about it more, I'm sure I could come up with a lot more things, but I don't think it would be as simple as you might imagine.


Translated on 11-10-2026, 18:22.
Back to top
christians
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 09/05/2002
Posts: 2105
Karma: +17 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Sauerland

Premium Support

Post08-07-2004, 12:06    Subject: Audi 100 AAT: Upgrade to A6 AAT Technology? Quote

Joe Klugmann wrote:
I don't think the turbo has been changed.

He is, though.
Gruß Christian
A6 BPP, Ex-A6 AKN (Gurke), Ex-Audi100 92 AAT (5Zyl.)


Translated on 11-10-2026, 18:23.
Back to top Profile PM
x world one
Blaumann
Blaumann


Joined: 09/11/2003
Posts: 503
Karma: +1 / -0   Thank you, like it!


Premium Support

Post08-07-2004, 13:12    Subject: Audi 100 AAT: Upgrade to A6 AAT Technology? Quote

The AAT engine in the A6 has the same turbocharger as the AEL engine in the A6. It was modified, which is why the newer AAT engines have better responsiveness. That's my understanding.
VW Golf III TDI Avenue, MKB 1Z, EZ96
VW Passat 3B Variant Highline, MKB AEB, EZ98, LPG
Opel Vectra C SW First Edition, MKB Z19DTH, EZ05
Aktuell: Ford Ranger 3,2l, Automatik, MKB SAFA, EZ 2014
Spritmonitor


Translated on 11-10-2026, 18:23.
Back to top Profile PM
Joe Klugmann
Guest




 


Free account, no CAN development support

Post22-07-2004, 13:59    Subject: Audi 100 AAT: Upgrade to A6 AAT Technology? Quote

The AAT in the A6 has the same turbocharger as the AEL in the A6. It was modified, which is why the newer AAT has better responsiveness. That's my information.

Okay, the Turoblader parts are the same; I had an A6 AAT and an A6 AEL here for comparison.
The change in responsiveness is probably related to the software.

I now also have all the necessary parts for the conversion, and I will start working on it next week.

However, I will not be replacing the engine wiring harness, but rather reconnecting it.

I just requested an expert opinion from MTM regarding the chip.

I think I will be able to tell you next week, probably towards the end, how it turned out and how he is behaving. icon_smile.gif

Regards,

Joe.


Translated on 11-10-2026, 18:25.
Back to top
New Topic Reply 🔗 ⭐ 🖨 Dieselschrauber - Index » Diesel Engine Technology
Similar articles and topics
Topic Forum
No new posts TDI Technology: Basic Principles Explained Technical Articles
No new posts Audi A3 Steering Wheel Faults & Documentation (Audi, VW, Seat/Cupra, Skoda)
No new posts Brake fluid change Audi A4 8K Faults & Documentation (Audi, VW, Seat/Cupra, Skoda)
No new posts Convert Disc Brakes to Drum Brakes Diesel Engine Technology
No new posts AFN/ALH Technology: Software & Systems Diesel Engine Technology
No new posts Questions about PD Technology Diesel Engine Technology
No new posts Skoda Superb, Model Year 2004 Diesel Engine Technology
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.