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Post11-05-2005, 12:43    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

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Der Beetle wurde mal an der Tür, auf Grund eines Parkremplers repariert. Seit dem bildet sich meine Schwester ein daß die Schalter der E-FH in der Fahrertür vertauscht wurden. Allerdings ist das ein großer Kombi-EFH-Schalter, da kann man L und R nicht vertauschen und meistens ist doch auch der Anschlußstecker dahinter ein großer und nicht 2 getrennte. Jedenfalls ist in ihrem Beetle der Schalter der dem Fahrer näher ist der für die Beifahrerseite und der vorne, der näher beim A-Brett ist der Schalter für das Fenster der Fahrerseite. Das ist doch wirklich unlogisch! Meine Frage nun: stimmt das so bzw. ist die Anordnung normal oder was kann da vertauscht worden sein? Nur was? SAre the plugs behind them possibly actually two separate ones?

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Post11-05-2005, 14:58    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

I had a Beetle convertible as a rental car the week before last.


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The window switch closer to the driver controlled the front passenger door, while the switch closer to the window controlled the driver's door.

It also makes sense when you look at it from above (from the left and right).

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Post11-05-2005, 15:03    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

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The window switches on the door of the Beetle are positioned unusually, facing forward instead of being oriented at a 90-degree angle towards the driver, as is common in cars like the Golf IV or Passat 3B/G! As you describe it, this is true for the Golf and Passat, but not for the Beetle. That's what we're talking about here. First, they are mounted vertically, and second, they are located on the smooth surface of the door panel, just like the side window.
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Post11-05-2005, 15:30    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

Hello!

I haven't written anything else!

The convertible has a total of 4 + 1 switches: front left for the driver's side, front right for the passenger's side; rear left for the left rear window, and rear right for the right rear window. Plus one large switch to open/close all four windows simultaneously due to the electric roof.

Read first, then complain!

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Post11-05-2005, 18:50    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

Weiß zwar nicht was du hast und ich habe auch nicht gemeckert aber dennoch danke ich dir erstmal für deine Bemühung. Aber wenn du schreibst: näher zum Fenster und näher am Fahrer dann trifft das leider nicht für die Schalter im Beetle zu. Mehr fällt mir nicht dazu ein. Die Schalter sind so positioniert daß der eine näher am Fahrer ist und der andere näher der Windschutzscheibe, weil sie senkrecht direkt in der Verkleidung 'hängen'. Hier ein Bild. Wenn die Tür geschlossen ist ist der linke Schalter dem Fahrer näher als der rechte. Linke=näher beim Fahrer, rechte=näher der Windschutzscheibe bzw. Armaturenbrett. Und seltsamerweise ist der linke der für die Beifahrerseite, und der rechte der für den Fahrer. Das iIsn't that unusual?

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Post12-05-2005, 8:45    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

Solution option 1: Read the manual.

Option 2: Visit dealerships and inspect the new vehicle in person.


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Post12-05-2005, 9:01    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

'If only it were that simple. There was no owner's manual included when I bought it, and the dealer hasn't had a Beetle in stock for a long time.'
'Thank you anyway, but it seems like this isn't working here.'

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Post12-05-2005, 10:29    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

According to the parts catalog, this is not a combination switch, but rather two separate switches housed in a double frame.

I couldn't find the wiring harness in the parts catalog, so I can't say anything about the connector, but I think there are probably two of them.

Therefore, you probably only have one option: remove the cover, take a look, and possibly reconnect something.

icon_arrow.gif Double plug = Sister to the psychiatrist icon_evil.gif
icon_arrow.gif Single plug = Sister happy icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Post12-05-2005, 10:35    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

'Thank you, and the individual connectors were also the only option I mentioned from the beginning.'
Sure, I can send the sister to see a psychiatrist, but even then, there's still the illogicality in the switch system if that's really what it's supposed to be. icon_biggrin.gif And I don't believe that the left switch (in the picture above) is for the passenger door. icon_rolleyes.gif Apparently, they completely messed up again when connecting it. icon_twisted.gif

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Post12-05-2005, 10:46    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

Hi,

You don't have to go to the dealer where you bought your car. You can go to any dealer. And I'm sure one of them will have a Beetle in stock!

It's quite strange that you didn't receive a manual when you bought the vehicle!

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Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

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Post12-05-2005, 10:51    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

Ja klar, ist logisch. Aber da das nicht mein Auto ist werde ich nicht in der Weltgeschichte herumfahren und Beetle's suchen icon_biggrin.gif Dachte hier wären auch Beetle-Fahrer im Forum und wüßten SOFORT welcher Schalter für welches Fenster ist. icon_wink.gif

Der Beetle wurde gebraucht gekauft und da war halt kein Buch mehr da. Nur Service-Heft. Never mind.

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Post12-05-2005, 11:42    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

Okay, looking at the picture, it seems like the switches are on the same plane as the door, unlike in a car like the Golf where they're at a 90-degree angle.
A switch therefore indicates the direction towards the motor and a direction towards the rear.
Then I would say that the switch pointing towards the engine controls the driver's side, and the switch pointing towards the rear controls the passenger's side.
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Post12-05-2005, 11:54    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

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Post12-05-2005, 12:18    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

As x-world-one wrote, it's in the same location as in the Beetle. But that doesn't make sense! Shouldn't the one for the driver's side be towards the rear? If you were to mount a Golf switch in the same way (in theory) as it's mounted in the Beetle, it wouldn't work like that either.

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Post12-05-2005, 12:44    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

No, then it wouldn't be like that. For me, as the driver, it would still make sense that the front lever is for me icon_biggrin.gif.

To me, it doesn't make sense for the lever to be located in the front and control the passenger side. That's my opinion.
But I think you can also get used to it, just like BMW drivers with older BMWs always have to reach for the center console for the electric folding mirrors (eFH). icon_rolleyes.gif
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Post12-05-2005, 12:48    Subject: Is the driver's side window switch for the Beetle swapped? Quote

Hello!
Und wo ist da bitte bei Dir die Logik? icon_biggrin.gif
Klar, gewöhnen kann man sich an alles. Aber diese Anordnung ist mehr als nicht normal, finde ich und vielleicht auch noch andere. What do you think?

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