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Post15-09-2018, 12:46    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

Yesterday, I took a small step in that direction. I purchased and installed Evo XR 1.0 projectors from retrofitlabs.com. It went quite well. There was also the Evo XR 2.0 version available at the same price, which is supposed to be even brighter. However, there were some uncertainties regarding the compatibility of the 2.0 version.
The installation went pretty well. I didn't have to drill, file, or anything like that. The flap for adjusting the high and low beams is working, and the automatic headlight range adjustment is still functioning. And the lenses are seated exactly in the designated hole in the headlight, not 5mm behind (which would have been the case with the 2.0 models because they are shorter).

The initial configuration was roughly as follows:
- Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited D2S and Osram Nightbreaker Laser H7, additionally for the high beam headlights.
-The condition of the reflectors was excellent. (They are original but not highly polished chrome, just matte.)
- Condition of the headlight lenses is also excellent. No yellowing or anything like that.
- verschandeln the lens.
- New Hella ballasts.
The subjective perception of the light could be described as "quite okay" or "so-so." The high beam was actually pretty good.

It looks like this now:
- Aharon Evo XR 1.0 Bi-Xenon projectors (with highly chrome-plated reflectors and other lenses).
-Philips Xtreme Vision Gen2 D2s, +150% brightness.
- Philips Racing H7 bulbs, providing an additional +150% brightness for your high beam headlights.

Subjektives Empfinden nach Umbau:breites Grinsen.Oder 300% mehr Licht.Gefühlt natürlich. {icon_biggrin.gif icon_smile_thumb_up.gif

Regarding the bulbs, I stuck with models that comply with the German Road Traffic Licensing Regulations (StVZO). However, I chose the most powerful models they currently offer. I've had mostly unsatisfactory experiences with the X-tremeVision 1 D2S and, before that, the Philips Ultra Blue D2S. That's why I tried Osram last year.
Now I've decided to trust Philips again.
Reason: When comparing the two reflectors alone, it becomes clear that it is pointless to compare light sources based on the stated percentage of additional light output. Or, read reviews on retailer websites about these light sources.
The dull reflector doesn't really achieve much, and you can also put an Osram Blue Cool bulb in the chrome housing, which would likely still provide excellent illumination even in the rain.
I'm saying that it's not always just the burner that's the problem, but also other factors, like the projector itself. And the ones I've refurbished are still in very good condition. There are also some that are completely dull, yellowed, rusted, etc. You could even put in incredibly powerful 8500k burners, and you still wouldn't see anything.



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Post15-09-2018, 15:30    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

Hutfahrer gefällt das! icon_smile_thumb_up.gif
Only why are the turn signal lights orange and not silver?
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Post15-09-2018, 18:42    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

Because tastes differ.
The oranges are fulfilling their purpose.



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Post15-09-2018, 22:02    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

Certainly, these things also light up. But if you're already using light to highlight something... icon_wink.gif
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Post16-09-2018, 8:07    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

I have some experience with headlight issues when driving at night, but not much with silver-colored turn signal bulbs.
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Post16-09-2018, 8:18    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

I know you enjoy experiments with light. Maybe you'd like to take a look at this. They also have those turn signal bulbs in an LED version. Personally, I wouldn't go for that. And to make matters worse, the price is also a factor. But as I said, tastes differ, and everyone has their own hobbies. And it doesn't cost anything to look.
https://www.retrofitlab.com/de/led-lampe/py21w-bau15s-led-2.html
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Post17-09-2018, 13:37    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

So far, I haven't had anything in my hands that could be used as a replacement for the turn signal and brake lights – something that could provide sufficient brightness. Within my circle of friends, we have two VW T5.2 vehicles equipped with LED daytime running lights and LED reversing lights. The latter are a real improvement. Both T5 owners are anglers, and they can now see very well thanks to the increased brightness of the reversing lights.
I've also installed these on my Smart and my Swift. Both only have a single reversing light, and the one on the Smart didn't produce much light. The one on the Swift produced more light, but it's located deep in the rear bumper, so it had very limited range. Both are now usable for their purpose with the LED lights; at least you can see something. On the two T5.2s, the rear lights are now incredibly bright.
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Post18-09-2018, 9:09    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

I also prefer bright lights for my car.
Looking at the two photos showing the street and surrounding area illumination, I prefer the top one (before). It provides a more even and wider illumination, and it extends higher in the distance. The bottom option has very bright spots directly in front of the car, which are likely to be distracting to your eyes when looking into the distance, and may not effectively illuminate objects or people close to the car.
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Post18-09-2018, 11:00    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

You seem to have overlooked the fact that the photos were overexposed and underexposed.
I would like to point out the file names to you... icon_cool.gif
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Post19-09-2018, 6:50    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

That's how it is. On and off.
Tomorrow, the SW (presumably referring to some kind of system or equipment) will be reconfigured because I had expanded it. After that, I'd be happy to take some more pictures.
Compared to before, this is still a big difference. Let's see how it performs in the rain.
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Hutfahrer wrote:
You apparently overlooked the fact that the photos were overexposed and underexposed.
Ich weise dich mal auf die Dateinamen hin... icon_cool.gif

You're right, I missed that!
Thank you.
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Post03-11-2018, 14:14    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

Okay, friends, I've made a small update. After I finished the conversion, Osram came out with the new Nightbreaker Laser D2S. As you know, I couldn't resist and I converted it again, and adjusted the headlights. There was a significant improvement, especially with the low beam. The illumination is no longer so spotty, but nicely even. If the question ever comes up again about which bulb is currently number 1 on the market, my answer is clear. I'm very satisfied. icon_biggrin.gif



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Post15-05-2019, 8:19    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

So Freunde,das Material für das nächste Upgrade habe ich beisammen.Demnächst kommen Morimoto Vorschaltgeräte mit 50W Leistung statt der üblichen 35W zum Einsatz.Ebenso der neue Osram Brennner D2S Cool Blue Boost."The CBB" heisst sie in Szenekreisen. icon_biggrin.gif
I'm very excited to see what comes out of this. Hopefully, the high performance won't affect the color of the light.



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Post22-05-2019, 10:59    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

35W bulb on a 50W controller?
Will it last long? I'm looking forward to hearing reports icon_wink.gif.


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Post22-05-2019, 18:08    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

Sicherlich werden die Brenner kein biblisches Alter dann mehr erreichen.Aber da ja regelmässig die bekannten Premiummarken mit neuen Superbrennern auf den Markt kommen,habe ich die sowieso nicht bis sie hinüber sind.icon_smile.gif
The projectors have already been replaced. The EVO XR models are supposed to handle heat quite well.
Maybe I'll build it this Saturday.
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Post30-05-2019, 6:45    Subject: Replacing bi-xenon projectors with D2S for proper lighting Quote

Everything is installed. The English word "bright" came to mind immediately after I flipped the light switch.
The light color is a bright white. This is certainly due to the 50W drivers. A CBB with 35W would have a slight bluish tint.
The pictures speak for themselves. No mouse can hide anymore. And it wasn't even completely dark when the pictures were taken. I like it very much.



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