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Olaf
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05-12-2002, 13:46 Subject: |
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Regarding the topic of "court" again:
"In this case, only a gesture of goodwill is really possible. It's practically impossible to enforce anything through legal means, except in extremely rare circumstances. The original warranty was only for one year."
Back then, the law already unfairly shifted the responsibility to the buyer after just 6 months.
Regards,
Olaf.
P.S.
However, there are no visible signs of damage on the timing belt itself! It would be great if such a problem could be detected earlier. I previously thought that by measuring the width during oil changes and replacing it every 60,000 km, I was on the "safe" side...
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Ingo Guest
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05-12-2002, 15:15 Subject: |
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I previously thought that by measuring the oil level during each oil change and replacing it every 60,000 km, I was on the safe side.
Well, that's what I thought too! But apparently, there's no such thing as a guaranteed safe product. This was my first and last Volkswagen. I simply can't accept this kind of damage after only 55,000 kilometers.
I can't tell you anything about the belt; I don't have any tools here. I'll bring it home on Friday, and then I'll remove the cover.
I'll get back to you over the weekend when I have more information.
@ everyone
Thank you for your answers! [/quote]
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Ingo Guest
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07-12-2002, 18:09 Subject: |
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Hi there,
If anyone's interested, my timing belt has broken!
On the top surface, there are slight scratches visible, specifically on the side where the labeling would normally be located.
Was that the cause?
After checking out Spannrolle & Co., I haven't been able to watch anything yet because I first need to weld the exhaust system for my mother's Volkswagen.
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Olaf
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07-12-2002, 18:12 Subject: |
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It's strange about the scratch marks. We should probably figure out what caused them... But I don't think that's normal.
Regards,
Olaf.
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christians Profi-Schrauber

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07-12-2002, 18:39 Subject: |
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Hi,
Assuming there isn't something like a timing belt interfering, it was probably too loose and therefore flapping excessively. This can cause it to rub against adjacent parts, such as the cover, and secondly, it can drastically reduce its lifespan. A possible underlying cause would be a loose or defective tensioner pulley. If this excessive flapping occurs at idle speed, you'll also hear it.Christian.
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Olaf
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07-12-2002, 18:50 Subject: |
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@Christians
Sounds plausible, thanks for the tip...
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07-12-2002, 23:28 Subject: Switching intervals |
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'The replacement interval for the belt in Longlive service is 90,000 km.'
There is no long-life service option for this model; a service interval of 60,000 km is mandatory.
The current intervals are here: http://www.service.beetle24.de/
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07-12-2002, 23:38 Subject: Subject: Change intervals |
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" dehlya wrote: | "The maintenance intervals for the longlife service are 90,000 km for the timing belt!!!"
There is no long-life service option for this model; a service interval of 60,000 km is mandatory.
The current intervals are here: http://www.service.beetle24.de/ |
Or also on the timing belt page in the PDF below  .
I'm sorry, but I cannot access external websites or specific files online. Therefore, I am unable to translate the text from the provided URL.
Best regards, Rainer.
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dehlya Guest
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07-12-2002, 23:54 Subject: |
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Sorry, Rainer, of course, check it out there first.
I didn't want to seem presumptuous, but I thought the list of changes from Volkswagen itself, dated August 2nd, might also be interesting.
Subject: Regarding the maintenance of diesel vehicles under framework contracts, I have frequently observed diesel fuel residue (possibly from a filter that is about to fail) on the timing belt. When looking at the list of vehicles being auctioned off, some of these 1.7-liter engines appear to have failed prematurely, and no one seems to be checking the condition of the mailboxes [presumably referring to a specific part or system].
Despite this risk, I prefer the 1.7 models. If I ask about the Lucas pump from the 1.9 AEF (always air) anywhere, people just roll their eyes because no parts are available...
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kai
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08-12-2002, 0:01 Subject: |
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Okay, I just wanted to point out the list from Continental that I linked to on the page some time ago.
Best regards, Rainer.
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dehlya Guest
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08-12-2002, 0:39 Subject: |
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It's a shame that the Continental list (Document 4, page 17) doesn't mention the 150,000 km service interval. The specific Continental part numbers for that interval would be very interesting, especially those included in the kit (which are understandably not listed on the VW table).
It would be unfortunate if the new/improved idler pulleys/belts were only available for Volkswagen vehicles.
Or perhaps they are the same and have become bolder, although Volkswagen still bases the timing belt wear on its width... (a layman's observation). It seems adventurous to me.
However, the prospect of achieving a guaranteed 120,000 km with this set seems appealing.
It's also interesting that the new materials apparently aren't being used in the smaller engines (when considering interval-based maintenance).
Does anyone have any ideas? Or perhaps the part number(s)?
Best regards,
Kai
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Ingo Guest
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09-12-2002, 9:27 Subject: |
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Is ContiTech an original equipment supplier for Volkswagen? Or were they at some point around 1997 or 1998?
By the way, I now have my service booklet completely filled out *g*, and I'm going to request a gesture of goodwill today. I'll also be writing a letter; that actually had more impact with one Audi driver than the dealership itself did! It's not a fairy tale or anything, it's really true!
Ingo.
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Ingo Guest
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11-12-2002, 0:58 Subject: Update: |
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Hi there,
Unfortunately, Volkswagen is not paying me anything, and the foreman in the workshop couldn't tell me why! That's ridiculous.
I have some rather crazy ideas right now, but I need your help with them. Where else can I find such a wealth of knowledge?
Okay, now I might be able to get a 1.9 SDI engine from a damaged Caddy. However, the transmission flange is broken off the engine block.
Here's the translation:
'Idea 1: Buy the complete 1.9 engine and find a new crankshaft case, BUT do I need all the associated components like the fuel injection pump, control unit, etc.? Or can the control unit and ESP (Electronic Stability Program) from the 1.7 be retained or adapted? Does the transmission flange of the 1.9 SDI fit onto the transmission of the 1.7 SDI?'
Here's the translation:
'2. Idea: Just buy the bare 1.9 SDi engine (because of the cylinder head and crankshaft), then install the 1.9 crankshaft into my 1.7 engine block with new 1.7 pistons? Are the stroke and bearing dimensions the same? Will it fit?'
MKB's 1.7 SDI: AKU.
1.9 SDI: AEY or similar.
ist das möglich, speziell meine 2. Idea?
What is the difference between the 1.7-liter and 1.9-liter crankshafts? I hope there isn't much of a difference, meaning that the piston for the 1.9-liter engine is simply slightly larger?
Or are my ideas simply not feasible?
Built-in biases?
It would really help me if you could take some time to look into my problem, because Volkswagen isn't paying me anything, and I don't have the money for a replacement engine.
Thank you very much!
Best regards,
Ingo
I would also be very grateful for any links to technical specifications or 'engine shops.'
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Olaf
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11-12-2002, 18:03 Subject: |
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I wouldn't put my hand in the fire for it, but since no one has answered yet:
To the best of my knowledge, the 1.9 engine block is a bit longer than the 1.7 block. That really shouldn't fit.
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Jan6K

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11-12-2002, 20:13 Subject: |
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Hi,
I can't give a definitive answer either, but here are the data from the Polo DIY manual. According to that, both the 1.7 and 1.9 engines have a bore of 79.5 mm, while the 1.9 engine has a stroke of 95.5 mm, compared to only 86.4 mm for the 1.7 engine.
Olaf is absolutely right about that, and I think that with a height difference of just one centimeter, quite a few things have to be different in order to avoid any small pieces breaking off.
"Or perhaps the 1.7-liter engine is excessively oversized in terms of its crankcase dimensions, but I find that hard to believe given the widespread obsession with cost savings."
Best regards,
Jan. 1Z5 CFHF  / AHB H4D 
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Ingo Guest
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11-12-2002, 21:27 Subject: |
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Yes, you're right!
I finally got my 'how-to' book back today.
I will never lend out that part again! You never get things like that back.
The book actually says the same thing.
Great stuff! Does anyone know of a good source for engines?
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