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Post02-06-2003, 22:13    Subject: Quote

Hello Olaf!

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"Even after the test drive, when I pointed out the excessive smoke, they just responded with the standard phrase: 'The exhaust needs to burn clean; just take it out on the road and really step on the gas, and it will go away.'"


icon_eek.gif Is that a joke or what?
icon_lol.gif I slipped off the chair icon_lol.gif.
It's obvious that the exhaust icon_lol.gif won't be used without a chip, because only soot would get into it, and you would naturally have to remove it after having the "exhaust " activated in the engine control unit.


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Post02-06-2003, 22:19    Subject: Quote

Hi,

Well... there's the file.

motor.ini

And for that, you need to make the following adjustment:

exhaust=1

Best regards,

Jan.

P.S.: I hope nobody takes this post seriously...
P.S.S.: It's always astonishing how much nonsense so-called experts feed to their CUSTOMERS.
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Post02-06-2003, 23:03    Subject: Quote

The phrase was demonstrably used by *** with other clients as well.
As with VW, the mass airflow sensor (MAF) is always blamed for everything.
The story about the soot being stuck in the exhaust isn't entirely wrong. However, this only applies if the car was previously driven without a chip and then suddenly starts being driven with a chip.
It's derived from the old Volkswagen slogan: "If you're not getting enough power, the exhaust may be clogged." That's also true for some cars that are driven only a couple of kilometers to work.


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Post02-06-2003, 23:10    Subject: Quote

but the next one is already far too much - even though they are 100% identical engines!!


A friend of mine has the same car as I do, and also the same chip from ******** (supposedly). He claims it makes his car feel like a 130 HP PD engine, at least from what he's experienced so far. It still smokes a lot, but not quite as much as mine. It seems these are actually parts from a rod, and Mr. G. doesn't even know what he's selling.

For my part, I'm taking the chips out again. My car is worth more to me than an extra 20 horsepower, especially given how questionable those horsepower figures are.

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Post02-06-2003, 23:23    Subject: Quote

@ olaf yes, but which diesel truck driver actually puts mustard on his icon_lol.gif?
they're only adding a few reflectors and wind shots to the windows, and a McDonald's cup holder... icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif
"No offense! It's true that for people who only drive to work and the distance is short, I've also "cleaned" cars, but this is a few real bits of soot, and that's all there is to it!"
It's quite easy to tell whether the problem is due to excess diesel or misfiring. If you rev the engine to 1200 RPM and it starts producing black smoke from the exhaust, it's likely due to unburnt fuel.

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Post02-06-2003, 23:24    Subject: Quote

Ahhhh... another one!


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Post03-06-2003, 8:55    Subject: Quote

Hi, I installed the so-called 'budget' chip. I'm completely satisfied. No black smoke and no loss of power at the limit. It revs up very high and cuts out cleanly at approximately 4600 RPM.
Data: 90 HP TDI AHH engine, approximately 80,000 km mileage (30% increased power).
Regardless of the tuner, I mainly get more power by adjusting the fuel injection, increasing the boost pressure, and the top speed depends on the transmission and, of course, the tire diameter!
Okay, looking in the rearview mirror, I can't observe any abnormal smoke emissions when accelerating rapidly. And I still need to check the fuel consumption.

Hi Kurt,


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Post03-06-2003, 12:48    Subject: Quote

Hello!
Do you perhaps have the possibility of taking it to an independent testing facility sometime?
I'm really interested in knowing what percentage more power it actually provides in your case, if it doesn't produce any smoke! I understand where the power comes from, and that's why I suggest you visit their website and read it yourself; statements like "fuel consumption will definitely decrease" are nonsense!!! Where is the power coming from, more air icon_confused.gif?
A correct statement would be: "With consistent driving, fuel consumption can be reduced."
"That's exactly what they say, that it's the result of years of development on the most modern testing benches. But please, doesn't anyone wonder why they can't provide a TÜV (German technical inspection) certificate for it? If I have such a great testing bench, am I only going to use it for removing soot? icon_lol.gif"
No, sorry, that's nonsense, I'd say. I can get something like that much cheaper from hobbyists; I don't need to contact a company for that, and besides, they know what they're doing and are willing to help.
Sure, here's the translation:

"gruzz mozz" translates to "greetings" or "hello" in Italian.


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Post04-06-2003, 11:11    Subject: Performance measurement Quote

Hi mozz,
I have scheduled a performance test for my vehicle with Bosch service for next Friday. It costs 41.66 euros, but I'm curious myself!!

N.B. Yesterday, I had a colleague follow me in his car so we could check for any smoke coming from my exhaust when I accelerated hard. There was absolutely nothing, just a small puff.
Ah yes, regarding the reduced fuel consumption, it's clear: it only applies when driving in a consistent manner (which is difficult, as it's hard to restrain the power of diesel engines). However, since you have more torque, and if you use it effectively, it can lead to lower fuel consumption!

Greetings from Northeastern Bavaria.

Kurt.
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Post06-06-2003, 13:24    Subject: Quote

Hi,

Please report immediately icon_smile.gif.
That probably interests some people. But over 40 euros isn't exactly cheap either.

Hi Jürgen,


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Post06-06-2003, 15:23    Subject: Quote

"Nothing is smoking from my car, probably because I reduced the airflow due to the EGR system."
My chip was adjusted because the VTG (variable torque generator) was hitting its maximum limit at 3600-3800 min^-1, causing it to go into emergency mode. Now, the flow rate is being slightly reduced at the top end. That would be an indication that the chips were not tested on a living organism, but are actually banana chips (ripening in the user's possession...).
Boost pressure is approximately 2050 millibars.
The airflow above 2000 min^-1 is more consistent and does not become sluggish starting from 3000 min^-1, as it was before the chipping process. "Above 3800, I obviously hardly notice any difference..."
In the low RPM range (1500...2000 min^-1), it behaves almost like before, due to the adapted air mass.
Fuel consumption at partial load with a light touch on the accelerator is approximately 0.2 to 0.4 liters per 100 km, which is less on average. Under full load, it consumes about half a liter to a full liter more. "In that case, the speedometer needle will just go wild..."
Everything, of course, was not tested on public roads... icon_wink.gif
But it's not as bad as some people are making out; everyone is using the same basic ingredients.
Cheerfully ALDI-chipped.
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Post13-06-2003, 8:18    Subject: Results of the performance test at the Bosch service center Quote

Hi,
So, I was at the Bosch service yesterday for a performance test.
The specified values for the AHH TDI engine (90 hp to 120 hp and 202 Nm to 282 Nm) have been significantly exceeded:
The values: 310 Nm at 2050 rpm.
125 hp (92 kW) at 3650 rpm.
So, a really well-tuned tuning chip. The increase in power output is within reasonable limits. I observed the same thing with a genuine 130 HP TDI.
Unfortunately, these chips are not available with German TÜV certifications. At the Bosch service center, regular TÜV (German technical inspection) inspections are also carried out. On the inspection report, the master technician confirms the result with the date, signature, and stamp, and I hope to have the chips registered during my TÜV appointment in November.
Should I inform my insurance company about the additional performance (for now, without the TÜV registration) or only after the TÜV inspection? What do you think?

Hi and best regards from Upper Franconia, Bavaria.

Kurt.


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Post13-06-2003, 9:29    Subject: without TÜV approval Quote

Technically, you're driving without the required operating license, which means your insurance coverage is void, and you could face significant claims in the event of an accident. So, without a valid technical inspection (TÜV), only drive on private roads or consider installing an original chip. Just drive with the engine "detuned" and then install the chip before the TÜV inspection... and then report it.
Stay cheerful.
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Post13-06-2003, 9:52    Subject: Quote

Hello,

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Unfortunately, these chips are not available with German TÜV certifications.

Well, a report like that can cost quite a bit of money. That's probably why many inexpensive chips don't have them.

In short and simple terms: I don't see a positive outcome regarding registration approval unless you obtain an expert's report for both your chip and your vehicle.

Best regards, Rainer.


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Post21-11-2005, 5:19    Subject: Quote

Sniper3 wrote:
Thank you for the answer. So, I've now heard from several people about the smoke issue
that they experienced when ordering a chip there.

I can only confirm that!
Endless smoke, barely noticeable performance increase, and no TÜV inspection report! Furthermore, I'm sure they only sell generic, off-the-shelf chips there. I recently received an email that said: "Now tuning chips for only 100 euros!"

You can imagine how much work is involved icon_rolleyes.gif.


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Post22-11-2005, 18:26    Subject: Quote

I've been thinking about it for weeks (it probably took them months at AFN icon_rolleyes.gif).

Who is the right person? Who is competent and affordable, etc., etc.

I now lament the countless threads discussing people's good or bad experiences with each other.

It's cynical that at VAG, the mother plant is guarded in a highly secretive development lab by 'three-headed giant dogs,' and that likely numerous files exist for each engine, originally created only for maximum performance tests or similar purposes. These files could be quickly multiplied by factors of performance using simple algorithms if a suitable file is found and the engine is already in development.


Here's the translation:

So, the ARL engine already comes with 165 horsepower as standard in the Seat Ibiza Cupra icon_evil.gif.
The 220 CDI started for the last time mechanically. The upgraded version with 141 horsepower worked well... it was great... now there's one with 150 horsepower.

Why do I keep getting service packs for my crappy Windows, but not for the engine?
How many entries are there in the commercial register for reputable, somewhat reputable, and disreputable tuning companies, each of which is essentially reinventing the wheel or stealing ideas from each other?

If a Christian *** calculates the selling prices of his tasteless plastic trim parts and cheap Korean-made alloy wheels by weighing them in gold, simply because his name is on them and his products apparently smell like marzipan, then that's one thing. Some people refer to fashion or style as a 'good name' that one buys at a high price.


But precisely because, as it is rumored, only the 'usual 8 data fields' are modified in his file, and because he, for a good reason, won't let it go beyond 375 Nm (he's smart, reasonable, and a proper workshop tuner), and yet he charges 1200! € for it icon_evil.gif, that's what makes me hate it.

That's just screaming 'pirated copy, pirated copy, pirated copy.'

I just want a factory file, a good icon_cry.gif.

They're probably just sitting on a shelf at VW, and they've simply taken 30% off the safe design limit, in that typical German fashion, and then sold a de-tuned engine.

And every Tom, Dick, and Harry, or so-called... Tuners can now, with varying degrees of luck, intelligence, or insider sources, try to obtain the original file for a considerable price, and the custom tuner sells it for 1200 icon_rolleyes.gif icon_evil.gif.

'It's like the Telecom IPO, where they're selling us our property, which already belongs to all of us, for which we've already paid taxes for a long time.' Development costs have been paid in the form of shares again icon_cry.gif icon_cry.gif, and people are doing it.

Sorry, Rainer, I've already had 5 cups of coffee and I'm leaving now.


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