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06-10-2007, 20:06 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Topic for Improvement Suggestions and Release History from CSV Log Viewer KDataScope.
What is KDataScope good for?
KDataScope is a program for viewing and quickly and easily reviewing and evaluating recorded VCDS, KOBD2Check, or GS-911 log files.
The KDataScope program is a user-friendly alternative to VAGScope, which offers the following advantages:
- Quickly find interesting measurement values through the variable zoom function.
- Automatic scaling of measurement curves.
- Measurement values as a tooltip for the cursor position in the log. - Delta cursor
- Create 3-D views (Map) from measurement curves.
Without conversion waste, without pointless clicking. No conversion or complicated configuration is required, nothing needs to be awkwardly imported from spreadsheets: Double-click on the log file, View!
Whether as measurement curves with and without zoom, as tabular numerical values, or for chip tuners to generate/identify 3D profiles.
Do you want to try KDataScope for free? Download KDataScope Demo Version!
Suggestions for improvement are welcome.
The current KDataScope version from Kaufmann Automotive is included in the "dieselschrauber VCDS Distribution" and the "RKS+CAN (KOBD2Check OBD2-Tool, KCANMonitor CAN Sniffer)" distribution, but can also be purchased separately.
Greetings, Rainer
PS: This is how you create a VCDS log
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07-10-2007, 12:08 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Hello Rainer,
Not bad for the first shot:
what I personally miss, or would simplify the evaluation of measurement data:
- Zoom, scaling of the x and y axes
- the ability to work with two y-axes, for example, to see motor speed and conveying time, etc., in one diagram.
- The ability to toggle signals from the log file on/off in the graph, for example, to only display 3 out of 12 recorded signals.
That's why the thread cross is so useful, as it accurately displays the values of the selected signal.
Best regards,
Jochen
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07-10-2007, 12:11 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Hi Jochen,
Thank you for the tips! Zoom is already available, and with the left mouse button, you can draw a rectangle, and then zoom in on it (click the upper-left corner and drag with the left mouse button to the lower-right).
In the opposite direction (moving from the bottom right to the top left in the diagram) it zooms back out.
The x/y axis scales can be changed by clicking on the end value.
Best regards, Rainer
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07-10-2007, 12:29 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Zoom exists, but
Haha, when you know, it plays out so nicely like this, great!
You can change the x/y axis scales by clicking on the end value
Personally, I find that entering the new values using <TAB> or <enter> would be a bit better.
It's a bit strange that I have to click somewhere with the mouse first.
Well, I'm just used to MS-Windows...
But still, the program will be nice
Best regards,
Jochen
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ulf Profi-Schrauber

Joined: 04/13/2002 Posts: 11058 Karma: +18 / -0 Location: Saarland 2023 MG ZS Premium Support
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07-10-2007, 18:15 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Hi Rainer,
On my laptop with Windows 98SE, the program often freezes (white window, "Open File" only works occasionally).
One of my .csv files, which seems to be difficult to process, is attached.
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Gruß Ulf
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ulf Profi-Schrauber

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07-10-2007, 20:47 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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vagtuning wrote: | | My log is also hanging for me "Program terminating" |
Then Rainer has something to look for, why... Incidentally, the log was created using his Hex-CAN system: "Incompatibility" is not accepted as an explanation 
Gruß Ulf
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07-10-2007, 21:01 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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ulf wrote: | My log is also crashing with "Program terminated"
Then Rainer has something to look for, why... Incidentally, the log was created using his Hex-CAN system: "Incompatibility" is not accepted as an explanation  |
It seems like it has already been converted using the CSV converter, as far as I can see. Okay, no more proper CSV.
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07-10-2007, 21:14 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Malte1408 wrote: | | However, as it appears, it has already been converted using the CSV converter? So, no more real CSV. |
Normal no... open (with Excel), saved as .xls, and then the .csv file goes directly into the laptop's trash.
From there, I dug them up again, but didn't change them. I always only get the .xls files to be processed further.
Gruß Ulf
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08-10-2007, 9:12 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Hi Ulf,
the file contains periods and commas instead of commas and periods.
Of course, the program should not hang
Best regards, Rainer
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08-10-2007, 23:41 Subject: VAG-COM KDataScope |
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Update against Hang-ups, Print/Save As Bitmap...
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09-10-2007, 8:11 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Hi Rainer!
Cute toy
Personally, I would like to have the option to save as GIF.
Furthermore, it seems your tool doesn't like Group 0 logs.
Unfortunately, some people are dependent on group 0. 
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11-10-2007, 22:18 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Update: Measurement block 0, Shortcuts.
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08-01-2008, 21:42 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Hello Rainer,
This is definitely a very useful tool, considering how many mouse clicks are required to see some curves after a log flight...
Following are the bugs I found during a quick test (XP Professional with DELL D610, 1.6 GHz laptop):
1. Sometimes, the cursor gets stuck and appears undefined, usually on the mouse.
2. How do I exit Zoom mode? File refresh works...
Weitere desirable features:
1. Optionale Umrechnung von TV in (100-TV), um die Logik zu verbessern (z.B. kleines TV -> kleinerer LD, großes TV -> größerer LD). I always enjoy doing this here....
2. General file information would certainly be helpful (date, time, filename)
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09-01-2008, 0:21 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Hi Kassen,
Quote: | Zoom is already available. You can use the left mouse button to draw a rectangle, and then zoom in (click from the top left to the bottom right).
In the opposite direction (moving from the bottom right to the top left in the diagram) it zooms back out. |
Thank you for the tips!
What do you mean by 1)? The 'crosshair' (cursor) should always seek the point that is closest to the mouse pointer.
Best regards, Rainer
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13-01-2008, 12:04 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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Hello Rainer,
My error description with the undefined crosshair has disappeared.
(the real problem was behind the PC  )
Unfortunately, I used a log file with very long pauses for testing the tool.
There are three sections containing data, with pauses inserted between them.
In the representation, the last data point from Section 1 is naturally connected to the first data point from Section 2 by a straight line.
However, since this line does not contain any data points, the crosshair 'jumps' over this line  when transitioning from section 1 to 2.
With Zoom, it also works, you just need to know how. It would definitely be good to have it in the context menu (right-click menu)  .
But I have another improvement idea:
For example, if you have logged 3 MWB, the screen will be quite full.
One should be able to individually enable or disable 'data tracks' in the legend using the mouse.
This is how you can extract the important data.
Edit:  I only saw it later; the idea was already had by Jochen_145;
Best regards,
Cashier
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05-03-2008, 21:15 Subject: KDataScope CSV Log Viewer, Download and Features |
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VAG-COM / VCDS Log-File Type Binding + Application Framework New
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