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hnsteyding
Joined: 02/24/2006 Posts: 41 Karma: +2 / -0 Location: Wolfsburg
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08-01-2010, 14:55 Subject: Temperature Variations in Measurement Blocks |
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Hello specialists,
I've just noticed some significant temperature discrepancies while reading temperature values from various measurement blocks.
Address 01: Engine (038 906 019 HH)
12:57:47 Block 007: Temperature sensor.
-5.4°C Fuel temperature (G81) -> THIS VALUE IS EXACTLY CORRECT!
0.0% Oil temperature.
-2.7°C Intake air temperature (G42) -> Not OK or what?
-3.6°C Coolant temperature (G62) -> Not OK or what?
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Address 08: Climate Control/Heating (3B1 907 044 C)
13:04:23 Block 006: Temperatures and solar radiation.
-5.0°C calculated outdoor temperature -> is OK.
-3.0°C Temperature (G89) Intake manifold -> Not OK or what?
-5.0°C Outdoor temperature (G17) -> is OK.
2.0% Sunlight (G107)
Now, this is probably off-topic:
Address 08: Climate Control/Heating (3B1 907 044 C)
13:04:50 Block 007: Temperatures (interior).
Mid-range outflow (G191)
-4.0°C Foot warmer (G192) -> Is this still okay?
-2.0°C Dashboard (G56) -> Not OK or what?
-2.0°C Evaporator -> Not OK or what?
Are there some temperature sensors that are defective?
I replaced the coolant temperature (G62) sensor about a year ago (it was probably displaying -99°C or something like that, and you could tell from the engine's starting behavior).
Thank you in advance for your answers!
Best regards,
Mark. Golf VII GTD 135kW
BJ: 03/2015 EZ: 04/2015
MKB: CUNA
GKB: M6F
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TDI-GTI-4-Motion Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 02/22/2009 Posts: 3865 Karma: +127 / -0
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08-01-2010, 15:36 Subject: Temperature Variations in Measurement Blocks |
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Everything is perfectly OK. These deviations are completely normal. If all values were supposed to be the same, the car wouldn't have been able to run for at least 2 weeks, and it would have to be in a cold chamber where there is no sunlight.  MfG. Michael
VW Golf IV TDI GTI 4-Motion Bj.2002 MKB/GKB: ARL/FEK
VW T4 Pritsche TDI Bj.1999 MKB/GKB: AXG/AFK (Selfmade)
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haithamina Schrauber

Joined: 05/15/2006 Posts: 666 Karma: +27 / -3 Location: 69221 Dossenheim
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08-01-2010, 16:09 Subject: Temperature Variations in Measurement Blocks |
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@ hnsteyding :
You can read the oil temperature using VCDS via Control Module 3 in the instrument cluster, if you are looking for that temperature reading.
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hnsteyding
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08-01-2010, 19:04 Subject: Temperature Variations in Measurement Blocks |
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Thank you for the "reassuring" answers  ; the car was parked outside on the street for a little over a day at approximately -7°C.
Best regards,
Mark. Golf VII GTD 135kW
BJ: 03/2015 EZ: 04/2015
MKB: CUNA
GKB: M6F
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TDI-GTI-4-Motion Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 02/22/2009 Posts: 3865 Karma: +127 / -0
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08-01-2010, 19:11 Subject: Temperature Variations in Measurement Blocks |
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hnsteyding wrote: | | The car was parked on the street for a little over a day at approximately -7°C. |
Then you don't need to worry. MfG. Michael
VW Golf IV TDI GTI 4-Motion Bj.2002 MKB/GKB: ARL/FEK
VW T4 Pritsche TDI Bj.1999 MKB/GKB: AXG/AFK (Selfmade)
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ulf Profi-Schrauber

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08-01-2010, 20:23 Subject: Temperature Variations in Measurement Blocks |
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TDI-GTI-4-Motion wrote: | If all values were to be the same, the car would not have been able to run for at least 2 weeks, and it would need to be in a cold chamber where there is no sunlight.  | Not even then, because the sensors also have a tolerance range.
-> Even in a thermally isolated environment, you would only get the same data across all channels with strictly selected sensors, or if all installed sensors happen to have the same deviation from the target resistance curve. Gruß Ulf
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08-01-2010, 21:10 Subject: Temperature Variations in Measurement Blocks |
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ulf wrote: | TDI-GTI-4-Motion wrote: | If all values were to be the same, the car would not have been able to run for at least 2 weeks, and it would need to be in a cold chamber where there is no sunlight.  | Not even then, because the sensors also have a tolerance range.
-> Even in a thermally isolated environment, you would only get the same data on all channels with strictly selected sensors, or if all installed sensors randomly have the same deviation from the target resistance curve. |
That's also true.  MfG. Michael
VW Golf IV TDI GTI 4-Motion Bj.2002 MKB/GKB: ARL/FEK
VW T4 Pritsche TDI Bj.1999 MKB/GKB: AXG/AFK (Selfmade)
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