Solved 90% BNS (BCM) T5.2 MDI and FSE coding?

Hello!

From Aunt "Edit": This topic is more relevant to posts further down, please read there, thank you





Perhaps my concern sounds a bit amateurish, but I've been thinking about the T5.2 and the retrofitting of GRA (German Rear Lights) and NSW (North Sydney West) with cornering lights for quite some time. Since I'm planning to buy a T5.2, and demo vehicles are often not equipped with the desired features, the question of "possible" retrofitting arises.

My previous experience in this area doesn't go beyond a 2001 T4; things were considerably simpler back then .

Unfortunately, since everything goes through the BNS and can only be encoded there, a replacement of the BNS is unavoidable if you want to add any features. The problem is that I can't figure out which number the BNS needs to have. While the E**A lists the various spare part numbers, it doesn't provide any description of what each BNS is capable of. The differences between various types of connectors are often identifiable by the pins in the connector openings, which may sometimes be missing.

It wouldn't be so bad if you bought a BNS (body control module) for a T5.2 Highline and then programmed everything on it. However, in various attempts, it turned out that the keys had to be re-paired, and the central locking system also had to be programmed so that the car could lock itself. The original configuration (when buying a new BNS) is programmed in such a way that the car is supposedly only able to lock, but not to unlock itself. "Under Vehicle Self-Diagnosis, 012 Adjustments, set the value of channel 99 from 1 to 0, and then the car can be reconnected," according to the statement of a "beta tester."


The next problem is the coding. Unfortunately, I have no experience with the new "long" coding, but I have read here about "VCDS support for long coding." Unfortunately, I don't have a vehicle available to test right now, so I haven't been able to see it yet.

How do I find a BNS (bike navigation system) with all the desired functions, such as GPS routing, navigation with turn signals, and possibly...? Rain/light sensor with associated automatic functions, "Leaving Home" function, etc.

Regards,

Peter

First, it's important to carefully check what type of BNS (Battery Management System) or even a BCM (Body Control Module) is installed. Normally, they can already do quite a lot.
The T5.2 will likely end up parked somewhere between generations of electric vehicles, just like my T5. However, the GRA (likely referring to a specific system or feature) should operate through the steering column control unit, as the vehicle has the same steering wheel and control levers as, for example, a Golf. The retrofitting process for the T5 was a real pain, believe me, I'm speaking from experience.

"First, perform a complete vehicle scan and post the results here." Something's definitely going to happen.

The long coding sequence often includes a helper that guides you through the individual bits, and it's really simple and intuitive to use!

Hello!
In this case, we're talking about a Multivan Startline without cruise control or fog lights. A T5.2 owner investigated this and discovered that the Body Control Module (BCM) in the location where the cruise control lever connects doesn't have any pins. Apparently, there are supposedly three different versions of the BCM, depending on the equipment. The Startline version without the listed extras essentially offers a simplified version of the BNS.

Unfortunately, I don't have a T5.2 available to perform a scan.

Regards,

Peter.

He has a BCM.


Click here.
Click the ECU Database.
Please provide the MKB CFCA code.

There is a scan included

Quote:

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BCM T5GP H+4 H46 http://netech.dk

Hello!

Okay, I've reviewed it once.

Meanwhile, the situation has changed. I bought an MV Startline model that has a rain sensor, fog lights with cornering lights, and cruise control.

Next up is the multimedia interface and the new premium hands-free system. To ensure everything is perfect, we'll also add an MFL.

I already have the MFL; it's simply powered with an additional + line, and one line connects to the LIN bus input of the BCM.

Okay, now comes the part where I'm still not quite sure I understand.
How do I now teach the BCM that it has all of this? I honestly have no idea what the new, longer coding system is about. Can my BCM do that?

Another topic is the slip ring. According to AKTE, there are only two slip rings available for the T5.2: one with ESP and one without. Since I have ESP, I assume that the two contacts in the slip ring are present, and I only need to connect the cables to the terminals at the back of the slip ring.

Has anyone had any experience with the slip ring on the T5GP?

Regards,

Peter.

Hello!

Okay, now I have everything I wanted, and I'm ready to start coding. Car: T5.2 Multivan Startline CAAC 2.0 CRD 103KW, manufactured in 10/2010.
Unfortunately, I am unable to access any control units with my RossTech HEX-USB Adapter Ver. 1.83. Is my adapter outdated? VCDS is the latest version...

Where's the problem? Did I fundamentally misunderstand something?

Regards,

Peter.

HEX-USB = Only K-Line.
HEX-USB+CAN = K-Line + CAN

You need the latter... and I've sent you a private message.

Best regards, Rainer.

There was never a HEX-USB with firmware version 1.83. If you really have that firmware, then it's a HEX+CAN interface.

And depending on the control unit, the process is slightly different in terms of 'coding.' That could also be due to operator error.

Hello!

Okay, I just received the new cable from Rainer, and I'm totally happy.
However, now I have to get used to the new, "long coding" system.

Basically, everything is self-explanatory, but I haven't found all the settings options that I was looking for.

What has changed:

I installed a new MDI unit. Following the instructions, I connected the adapter cable harness to the Quadlock connector and then connected the adapter cable to the MDI. That's it. Everything is working perfectly; all the titles are displayed correctly, both on the radio and in the AI system.

FSE (car audio system) installed, on the original bracket, including GSM antenna, microphone, etc. It was equipped with a QuadLock adapter cable, which simply plugs between the radio and the original wiring harness. I knew it wouldn't work immediately, as I still need to install the MFL (multifunction leather steering wheel) to be able to operate the FSE. However, VW cannot supply the adapter cable between the ring connector and the MFL buttons, and I've been waiting for it since November 22nd. Part Number: 3C8 971 584 A

However, when I accessed the error memory, I encountered a few things.

Thursday, December 23, 2010, 20:59:23:39957
VCDS Version: RKS 10.6.3
Data as of: 20101206


Vehicle type: 6N0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 18 19 25 2E 56 77

Vehicle Identification Number: WV2ZZZ7HZBHXXXXXX

01-Motor -- Status: OK 0000
03-Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering angle sensor -- Status: OK 0000
08-Climate/Heating -- Status: OK 0000
09-Onboard network -- Status: OK 0000
10-Parking assist 2 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbag -- Status: OK 0000
17-in-1 instrument -- Status: OK 0000
18-Heater -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN-Gateway -- Status: Error 0010
25-way immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: not logged in 0001
56-Radio -- Status: Error 1010.
77-Phone -- Status: not logged in 0011

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAC) Label file: None
Part number SW: 03L 906 022 CH, HW: 03L 907 309 K.
Part: R4 2.0L EDC H37 7538
Revision: 26H37--- Serial Number: 00000000000000
Encoding: 0119401A232400080000
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906022CH 002008
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906022CH.rod
VCID: 6DD45A870D17

No errors found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 03: Brakes (-----)
Label file: None
Part number SW: 7E0 907 379 G, HW: 7E0 907 379 E.
Component: ESP MK25A XT H43 0105
Revision: 00H43001
Encoding: 108724AD09A7089924A6907A6A6410
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 49152
VCID: 3666B5EB38C1

No errors found.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 08: Climate Control/Heating (J301) Label file: 7E5-907-047.clb
Part number SW: 7E5 907 047 AJ Hardware number: 7E5 907 047 AJ
Part: Climatic-T5 H11 0203
Revision: 00005001
Encoding: 0000000002
Operating number: WSC 02757 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
ROD: EV_ClimaticT5_VN75.rod
VCID: 77F878EF7F4B

No errors found.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 09: Body Control Module (J519)
Label file: RKS\7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part number SW: 7H0 937 087 D, HW: 7H0 937 087.
Component: BCM T5GP H+4 H47 0221
Revision: BO047001 Serial Number: 0347 235100043
Encoding: A0A0393A0E212012012000007C2B9ED40080410F60840000300000000000
Operating number: WSC 02754 790 00000
VCID: 3564B2E725C7

Part number: 1K0 955 559 AH
Component: RLS 010910 05 54 0403
Encoding: 03702E

Part number SW: 7E0 959 801 A, HW: 7E0 959 801 A.
Part: J386__TSG_FT 003 3311
Encoding: 040000

Part number SW: 7E0 959 802 A, HW: 7E0 959 802 A.
Part number: J387__TSG_BT 003 3311
Encoding: 040000

No errors found.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 10: Parking Assist 2 (J446) Label file: RKS\7E0-919-475.clb
Part number SW: 7E0 919 475 A, HW: 7E0 919 475 A.
Part: PARKING ASSIST 8K H10 0008
Revision: -------- Serial Number: 32731022501033
Encoding: 100001
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K A01003
ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K.rod
VCID: 306A83F3DAA5

No errors found.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 15: Airbag (J234) Label file: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part number SW: 7E0 959 655 C, HW: 7E0 959 655 C.
Part number: VW10Airbag007 H06 0013
Revision: -------- Serial Number: 003HM000BPXP
Encoding: 0000000000000000000000000000000
Operating number: WSC 02754 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VN75.rod
VCID: 3666B5EB38C1

Crash sensor for driver-side side airbag:
Serial number: 3495ZRB40596JIHQ718%

Crash sensor for side airbag, passenger side:
Serial number: 3505ZRB40516JIHQ8OED

No errors found.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 17: Combination instrument (J285)
Label file: RKS\5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part number SW: 7E0 920 870 C, HW: 7E0 920 870 C.
Component: COMBINATION UNIT H04 0204
Serial number: 00000000000000
Encoding: 160F00
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VN75.rod
VCID: 295C6E97F97F

No errors found.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 18: Auxiliary heater
Label file: None
Part number: 7E0 815 071 A
Component: J737__Auxiliary Heater 0404
Revision: 00085000 Serial Number: 09019275D00000
Encoding: 0000031
Operating number: WSC 02757 790 00000
VCID: 23407CBF9B53

No errors found.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 19: CAN-Gateway (J533) Label file: RKS\6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part number SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 087
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0221
Encoding: 042200
Operating number: WSC 02754 790 00000
VCID: F0EAC3F39A25

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

3 errors found:
01044 - Control unit incorrectly coded.
000 - -
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 01100000
Error priority: 2
Error frequency: 1
Time: 0

00470 - Corporate data bus, single-wire communication, comfort features.
012 - Electrical fault in the circuit - Intermittent.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00101100
Error priority: 2
Error frequency: 1
Lost Count: 55
Time: 0

01304 - Radio
004 - No signal/communication - Sporadically.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00100100
Error priority: 2
Error frequency: 1
Lost Count: 55
Mileage: 0 km
Time: 0
Date: 2002.14.24
Time: 12:33:20


"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)
Label file: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part number SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0204
Serial number:
Encoding: 000000
Operating Number: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VN75.rod
VCID: EADED19BBCF9

No errors found.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Label file: RKS\5N0-035-342.lbl
Part number SW: 5N0 035 342 C. Part number HW: 5N0 035 342 C.
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111
Revision: A1001003 Serial Number: 7668556460
Encoding: 010000
Operating Number: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 275868AFEF6B

No errors found.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 56: Radio (J503) Label file: RKS\5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part number SW: 5M0 035 186 AA. Part number HW: 5M0 035 186 AA.
Part: Radio RCD310, part number 016 0049.
Revision: 01000000 Serial Number: VWZ1Z2K7182478
Encoding: 0500040004
Operating number: WSC 02754 790 00000
VCID: 6BD0549F3303

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"1 error found:"
03138 - AUX IN input.
011 - Interruption.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 01101011
Error priority: 5
Error frequency: 1
Lost Count: 25
Mileage: 1203 km
Time: 0
Date: 2003.14.07
Time: 20:55:59


"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 77: Phone (J412) Label file: RKS\3C8-035-730-A.clb
Part number SW: 3C8 035 730 A, HW: 3C8 035 730 A.
Component: Telephone 007 0078
Revision: -------- Serial Number: 35909603005766
Encoding: 010001000000010000000000
Operating Number: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi A01005
ROD: EV_UHVPremi_VN75.rod
VCID: 214C76B7814F

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

3 errors found:
9457427 - Negative output audio channel for voice/telephone.
B104F 13 [009] - Interruption.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00000001
Error priority: 4
Error frequency: 1
Lost Count: 25
Mileage: 1203 km
Date: 2003.14.07
Time: 20:54:01

9458451 - GSM antenna.
B1053 13 [009] - Interruption.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00000001
Error priority: 4
Error frequency: 1
Lost Count: 25
Mileage: 1203 km
Date: 2003.14.07
Time: 20:54:01

9457939 - Bracket for phone holder.
B1051 13 [009] - Interruption.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00000001
Error priority: 4
Error frequency: 1
Lost Count: 25
Mileage: 1203 km
Date: 2003.14.07
Time: 20:54:01


Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

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I understand that a newly purchased MDI might not be properly coded. Also, I'm still missing the MFL, and VW cannot supply the steering wheel adapter cable for the MFL buttons. I'm not sure if that's relevant.

Regarding the phone issue. I find that my iPhone lists the FSE (Freisprecheinrichtung) as "Handsfree," but due to the lack of a display (or perhaps a specific indicator?), I can't read the code required to pair the Bluetooth interface.

Does anyone have experience pairing these devices?

Regards,

Peter.

Oh, there's something else...

My Multivan Starline is equipped with H4 headlights. However, I want to install H7 headlights. I found the corresponding coding in the BCM, but there is a specific warning there against making the change, as it could lead to irreversible errors. There's also only the option to choose between different lighting configurations, but what does each one mean?

With H4 headlights, a switching mechanism is activated between the low and high beam to prevent the H4 bulb from burning out. In contrast, with H7 headlights, the low beam continues to operate even when the high beam is turned on. What needs to be selected in this case?

Regards,

Peter.

@mullemaus

Do you have any helpful advice for me, as a professional?

Is there a way to learn more about this?

Regards,

Peter.

Hello!

Sure, here's the translation:

"Another question:"

Under the Lcode2 heading, there are various checkboxes, some checked and some unchecked, but none of them have any text associated with them. What is the meaning of these settings?

In the error logs, it says "not logged in." How can I register or sign up for something?

Greetings, Peter.

You need to try coding it directly in the car. The labels for each item are located there. If nothing is indicated there, it's not 100% certain what that field does. If something is not certain, don't click around randomly.

Whatever is known is always incorporated and then included in the updates. However, it's not always possible to do everything promptly.

Hi Mullemaus!

Generally, I don't change anything that cannot be clearly attributed to a specific source. That's why I didn't make any changes at the Lcode2 level.

I've already done a lot of searching on Google, and I've found that it's difficult to find any useful information.

How should I approach my coding problem now? Which control unit needs to be "addressed" first, and which one second?

I found a note indicating that, for example, in the case of the FSE (presumably a specific system or device), the antenna monitoring should be disabled, for some reason.

I'm still not sure what I should do with the other error entries.

How do I complete this mysterious "registration"?
The CAN control unit is also complaining because this "registration" is missing.


Best regards,
Thank you,

Peter.

There is always a search for coding solutions when new participants join the CAN network. Even if you save the current version.

Audi is different in that regard; you need to specify the participants for each vehicle so that they can be recognized.