Intermittent immobilizer problem, Passat 3C Variant, 2009

Hi, a friend of mine has a Volkswagen Passat 3C Variant, model year 2009, diesel, 140 horsepower, and it occasionally has problems with the immobilizer.
Do you know the answer? New steering column?

He was at ATU, but they couldn't read the error codes.
I stood there for a whole day.

Thank you.
Regards,
Chris.

Sunday, August 4, 2013, 11:06:06:43793
VCDS Version: RKS 11.11.5
Data as of: 20130111.


Vehicle type: 3C0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 18 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 69
6D 72 77

01-Motor -- Status: Error 0010.
03-Brakes -- Status: Error 0010.
04-Steering angle sensor -- Status: OK 0000
08-Climate/Heating -- Status: OK 0000
09-Onboard network -- Status: OK 0000
10-Parking assist 2 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbag -- Status: OK 0000
16-inch steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-in-1 instrument -- Status: OK 0000
18-Heater -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-way immobilizer -- Status: Error 0010.
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-door electric. Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Comfort System -- Status: Error 0010.
52-door electric. Front passenger seat. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62- Door, electric, left and right -- Status: OK 0000
69-inch cable -- Status: Error 0010.
6D Rear Door -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, electric, high, right side -- Status: OK 0000
77-Phone -- Status: OK 0000


Address 01: Engine (CBA)
Label file: RKS\03L-906-022-CBA.clb
Part number SW: 03L 906 022 QC, HW: 03L 907 309.
Part: R4 2.0L EDC G000SG 5582
Revision: 13H02--- Serial Number: VWZCZ000000000
Encoding: 0000072
Operating number: WSC 83968 800 534598
VCID: 76E98953016C2CA80B0

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"1 error found:"
001299 - Incorrect immobilizer code.
P0513 - 000 - - Intermittent.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00100000
Error priority: 2
Error frequency: 16
Mileage: 146,029 km
Time: 0
Date: 2023.14.09
Time: 16:44:43

Environmental conditions:
Speed: 1012 RPM.
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Voltage: 11.78 V
Pressure: 969.0 mbar
Pressure: 948.6 mbar
Temperature: 27.9°C
Temperature: 44.1°C

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0


Address 03: Brakes Label file: RKS\3C0-614-109-C4.clb
Part number SW: 3C0 614 109 AF HW: 3C0 614 109 AF
Component: J104 C4 440 V2 0015
Revision: --025--- Serial Number: 00000795574993
Encoding: 0002323
Operating number: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 62C1C503BDE4A008578

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"1 error found:"
02214 - Tire pressure warning.
002 - lower limit exceeded.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 01100010
Error priority: 6
Error frequency: 254
Lost Count: 26
Mileage: 143,899 km
Time: 0
Date: 2024.14.07
Time: 13:12:09

Environmental conditions:
Speed: 104.0 km/h
Hexadecimal value: 0x0072
Voltage: 14.25 V
Binary value: 00011111
Quantity: 214
Hexadecimal value: 0x0000



Address 25: Immobilizer
Label file: RKS\3C0-959-433-25.clb
Part number SW: 3C0 959 433 AR Hardware number: 3C0 959 433 AR
Component: IMMO 043 0383
Revision: 00043000 Serial Number: VWZCZ000000000
Operating number: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 7AF19D63357448C86F8

Part number: 3C0 905 861 G
Component: ELV 027 0380
3C0905861G ELV 027 0380

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

3 errors found:
02861 - Fault in the electronic steering column lock.
008 - Implausible signal - Sporadic.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00101000
Error priority: 4
Error frequency: 1
Lost Count: 215
Mileage: 147,229 km
Time: 0
Date: 2108.14.01
Time: 10:41:08

02818 - ELV approval for electronic ignition switch.
009 - Intermittent short circuit to ground.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00101001
Error priority: 2
Error frequency: 1
Lost Count: 215
Mileage: 147,229 km
Time: 0
Date: 2108.14.01
Time: 10:41:09

02811 - Control unit for ELV (Electronic Locking Column) (J764)
014 - Defective - Intermittent.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00101110
Error priority: 1.
Error frequency: 17
Lost Count: 216
Mileage: 145,883 km
Time: 0
Date: 2024.14.05
Time: 15:01:34


Address 46: Comfort System
Label file: RKS\3C0-959-433-46.clb
Part number SW: 3C0 959 433 AR Hardware number: 3C0 959 433 AR
Component: KSG PQ46 ELV 043 0612
Revision: 00043000 Serial Number: VWZCZ000000000
Encoding: 00900A00D1030E763004941570084F0E707C01
Operating number: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 7AF19D63357448C86F8

Part number: 1K8 951 605.
Part: LIN BACKUP HORN H09 9002

Component: NGS, not mounted.

Component: IRUE, not mounted.

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"1 error found:"
01134 - Alarm horn (H12)
text
000 - -
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 01100000
Error priority: 4
Error frequency: 3
Lost Count: 174
Mileage: 139,354 km
Time: 0
Date: 2101.14.00
Time: 07:56:48



"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die Bäume, und die Blätter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um spazieren zu gehen oder ein Picknick im Park zu machen."

Address 69: Trailer (J345) Label file: RKS\1K0-907-383-MY8.lbl
Part number SW: 1K0 907 383 E, Part number HW: 1K0 907 383 E.
Part: Trailer H08 0080
Revision: 3A002002 Serial number: 00000121317879
Encoding: 4100000100000000
Operating number: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 2F677C377EB65D60886

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"1 error found:"
02563 - Lamp for the right tail light on the trailer (M61).
010 - Interruption/Short circuit after positive terminal - Warning light ON.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 11101010
Error priority: 3.
Error frequency: 3
Lost Count: 166
Mileage: 146,990 km
Time: 0
Date: 2107.14.29
Time: 16:21:28

Quote:

Do you know the solution?

No, not really. I would first clear all the errors and then observe which errors reappear and in what order.

Also, try using the second key as well.

It is not uncommon for a single error to trigger the storage of subsequent, calculated error codes in the error memory.

A candidate with the highest error frequency would be: 02811 - Control unit for ELV (Electronic Locking Column) (J764).

Edit:

AFAIK, that would mean replacing the steering column. According to what I'm reading, in this case, the Comfort Control Unit (CCU), which contains the immobilizer, should also be replaced.

Hello, a friend has a Passat 3C Variant, model year 2009, diesel, 140 horsepower, and the immobilizer occasionally gives him problems.
Do you know the answer? New steering column?

Not quite. The locking part, including the control unit, is available separately.

Yes, that's correct. They are sold separately, and it's not uncommon for them to break.

Only a NEW part can be installed, and it can also be programmed using VCDS!

You need the PIN code, which can be found in the comfort control unit or the engine control unit. If you don't know how, I'd be happy to help you.

Okay, so he was at the workshop last week.
The same problem occurred with the 2T key.
VW only stated, based on my VCDS printout, that the KSG (Klima-Schiebedach-Gruppensicherung) also needed to be replaced. Otherwise, he's always getting into trouble.
Because he had a similar negative experience abroad, he paid 600 euros in advance, as the parts were being custom-made for him. He exchanged the parts 2 days later, and since then, everything has been quiet. He was given the old parts as well. However, they forgot to program the second key. He should probably try getting it for free there.
But he seems to think that everything was strange, and he's not sure if it was okay.

greetings
Chris