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Post22-10-2013, 15:10    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

Attention, I have a problem with my Audi A4 B5 Avant. All of the ventilation control motors are not working. The OBD system indicates no power supply for all of the control motors. I've already tried a different control, but unfortunately, I haven't had any success.
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Post22-10-2013, 19:33    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

Please provide 1x vehicle data and a diagnostic scan of the vehicle.
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Post23-10-2013, 9:21    Subject: re motor Quote

Wednesday, 23, October, 2013, 09:20:51:44616
VCDS Version: RKS 11.11.6

Address 08: Climate/Heating Label file: RKS\8D0-820-043-1D.lbl
ECU Part Number: 8D0 820 043 M
Part and/or Version: A4 AIR CONDITIONING UNIT D54
Encoding: 00043
Operating Number: WSC 06325
VCID: 2A5D5994D65161485EF
3 errors found:

00603 - Actuator for footwell/defrost vent (V85)
41-00 - Blocked or No Power
01272 - Actuator for Central Valve (V70)
41-00 - Blocked or No Power
01271 - Actuator for temperature flap (V68)
41-00 - Blocked or No Power
I hope this works.
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Post23-10-2013, 9:48    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

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We are a workshop in Langenrohr near Tulln and we face vehicle problems every day


Here's how you should know that without specific vehicle data, e.g., a search in a RLF (Regional Lawful Framework) will result in a lottery game.
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Post23-10-2013, 13:35    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

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Obd indicates that there is no + power supply for all motor actuators.

This could be due to either cable problems or a blown fuse (possibly due to a faulty control motor). icon_wink.gif
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Post23-10-2013, 16:27    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

Sorry, here are the vehicle details
Audi A4 B5
Engine Code AFN
Year of manufacture: 1998
Ref. No: WAUZZZ8DZXA235xxx
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Post23-10-2013, 18:32    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

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Obd indicates that there is no + power supply for all motor actuators.


It seems that the power supply for the flaps is all connected to a cable on the control panel.

At contact C8 (red/yellow), a voltage of 5V should be present. You have mail.
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Post24-10-2013, 10:59    Subject: to make one crazy Quote

I have now measured the voltage to one of the terminals of the motor plugs: yellow-red to brown-white, 5V yellow to brown-white, 5V
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Post24-10-2013, 11:22    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

Didn't you just write in that deleted post that there isn't 5V coming from the control unit?? What has changed now, then??
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Post24-10-2013, 11:37    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

I'm a fool, I had to admit it. Yesterday evening, I switched the multimeter to Amperes and didn't switch it back before measuring. With the correct handling, I suddenly had voltage. Unfortunately, this still doesn't help me because it still doesn't work. I'm almost ready to find and try a different control unit, even though I sent this one to ENDERA (I think that's the company's name) in Germany to have it checked out, and I paid 60 € for it.
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Post24-10-2013, 11:43    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

As the initial post states, another component is already exhibiting the same error, so what's the point of replacing it? Is the required voltage, if measured correctly, now actually present?
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Post24-10-2013, 11:50    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

Honestly, I'm already pretty much on the verge of giving up, but I'm also pretty sure it's not the control panel itself, but something else. But, for heaven's sake, what else could it be? It must have something to do with the power supply of the control panel.
Unfortunately, my schematics do not show which pins on the control panel require voltage or ground. Perhaps there is no voltage or ground on a particular pin.
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Post24-10-2013, 13:31    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

I have a 12V power supply for the control panel.
gray green when light is on
black blue ignition on
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Post28-10-2013, 18:27    Subject: It's going again Quote

Ventilation is working again. After we had checked and measured all possible connections, I installed another control panel, and guess what? Everything is working again. It's unbelievable, but after I sent this control panel to ENDERA for repair, which had certified and approved it, I naturally assumed that it would also work. They even charged me 60€ for the repair, so I highly recommend them. If I had replaced it as I initially suspected, I would have saved myself a lot of trouble. But again, thank you very much for your support. Of course, there has been no statement from this nice company since the payment.
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Post28-10-2013, 20:35    Subject: Audi A4 B5 Ventilation Motors Quote

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Of course, there has been no statement from this nice company since the payment.


Unfortunately, very often normal icon_eek.gif.

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