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Post23-11-2017, 23:41    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

First of all, I just got a license from Kaufmann 5 minutes ago!


Hey guys, I need your help.

I have a Seat Ibiza with a 1.9 TDI engine, and the engine code is BMT.

"Since yesterday, I've been getting an intermittent error message about the throttle body."

Intake manifold valve short circuit to ground.

The valve has been replaced, but the problem still persists.



The cables appear to be in good condition.



Can I adapt the valve? I can't find it in VCDS.



"The valve cannot be accessed via VCDS. The process starts, but the valve doesn't respond."



In the measurement data blocks, the target value for valve 94 is set, while the actual value is approximately 3%.



Sure, no problem. Here's the translation:

"Thank you in advance."



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Post24-11-2017, 0:19    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

Hi Julian,
You somehow manage to get in through the back door, perhaps unintentionally.
Your VCDS-RKS status is unknown.
Let's do a quick scan, and then we can proceed.
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Post24-11-2017, 0:26    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

Hello Herbert,
I'm not able to access it through the back door. I just purchased a license for €79 from Kaufmann, and I received a notification that I already have a user account dating back to 2013!
Since my order was cancelled because it was apparently not desired, I'm also at a loss as to what to do next.

If I upload my scan now, I will be blocked again because I purchased my license from PCI! Apparently, I am not allowed to purchase licenses here.

Well, I always thought you could get help in the forum, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

If anyone would like to help.
I see that the two described errors are present.

I'm just a mechanic with oil-stained hands, and I'm simply looking for a little help.

Thank you in advance.
Best regards, Julian.


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Post24-11-2017, 0:37    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

Hi Julian,
If you have purchased a support key, the activation is likely to be processed shortly.
Please be patient until then.
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Post24-11-2017, 8:19    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

Hello, the intake manifold valve has been replaced.

Vehicle Identification Number (VIN): VSSZZZ6LZ7R173023 License plate:


Vehicle type: 6L (6L - Seat Ibiza/Cordoba (2002 > 2009))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 46 55 56

Vehicle Identification Number (VIN): VSSZZZ6LZ7R173023 Mileage: 226,450 km
"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Feld und lässt das Gras sanft wiegen. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze blows through the field, causing the grass to sway softly. It's a beautiful day.
Address 01: Engine Control Module
Label file: DRV\03G-906-013-BMT.lbl
Part number SW: 03G 906 013 A, HW: 03G 906 013.
Part number: R4 1.9L EDC 0000SG 0481.
Revision: --H03--- Serial Number: SEZ5Z0G2091626
Encoding: 0053071
Operating number: WSC 21460 142 84986
VCID: 1E344FA4CAE431B698-512E

Two error codes found:
008213 - Sender for intake manifold flap position.
P2015 - 000 - Implausible signal - Intermittent.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00100000
Error priority: 1.
Error frequency: 1.
Lost Count: 255
Mileage: 226,448 km
Time: 0.

Environmental conditions:
Speed: 1428 RPM.
Speed: 72.0 km/h
Last: 0.0%
Voltage: 14.14 V
Key ratio: 13.5%
Lambda: 1.6%
Temperature: 89.1°C

012545 - Actuator for throttle valve (V157).
P3101 - 000 - Short circuit to ground / Open circuit - Warning light ON.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 11110000
Error priority: 1.
Error frequency: 1.
Lost Count: 255
Mileage: 226,448 km
Time: 0.

Environmental conditions:
Speed: 1365 RPM.
Speed: 68.0 km/h
Last: 0.0%
Voltage: 14.14 V
Key press ratio: 94.7%
Lambda: 2.4%
Temperature: 89.1°C

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 1


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Post24-11-2017, 12:30    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

Hello,

the two errors.

Quote:
008213 - Sensor for intake manifold flap position.
P2015 - 000 - Implausible signal - Intermittent.
...
012545 - Actuator for throttle valve (V157).
P3101 - 000 - Short circuit to ground / Open circuit - Warning light ON

This suggests a potential issue with the cable or connector connected to the throttle body. The throttle body is located on the engine's intake manifold, and it's where the large turbocharger boost hose from the intercooler is attached.

While the throttle valve can also fail mechanically (due to plastic gears inside that wear out and eventually slip), that would be a different issue.

You should check the cable to the throttle valve for signs of damage caused by rodents or chafing.

Best regards, Rainer.


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Post24-11-2017, 12:50    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

Hello Rainer,
I will take a closer look at the cables or the line this afternoon.

Since the throttle valve is new, a mechanical defect can be ruled out.

Does anyone happen to have a wiring diagram and can tell me where the four cables go?
I'm guessing it's the engine control unit (ECU).
A pinout diagram would be helpful.

Thank you very much in advance.

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Post24-11-2017, 12:54    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

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I'm guessing it's the engine control unit.

Okay! You can get the circuit diagram from Erwin, but I would first carefully examine the connectors and cables visually, centimeter by centimeter, before starting any major measurement activities. icon_idea.gif
Also, also check if the fuses are okay.


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Post24-11-2017, 13:57    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

I've already checked all the fuses that I could see and find.

Do you happen to know which specific fuse is responsible?

Thank you very much for your efforts, Rainer.

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Post24-11-2017, 14:12    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

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Do you happen to know which fuse is responsible for that as well?

No, but which number corresponds to what should be found in the operating manual located in the onboard folder. icon_idea.gif
If everything is controlled by the engine control unit (ECU), then the most likely cause would be corrosion or a loose connection at the fuse. In that case, the vehicle would run very poorly and might even stall. Therefore, check the cables and connectors.


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Post24-11-2017, 18:49    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

Also, don't forget about the fuses on the battery; one of the three small ones was for the engine control unit, if I remember correctly.


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Post25-11-2017, 0:07    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

Hello guys,
I found the error.
Scorched cable strand under the battery! icon_confused.gif

See image for more details.

Thank you for your efforts; the next error is sure to come. icon_smile_thumb_up.gif

Best regards, Julian.



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Post25-11-2017, 0:23    Subject: Ibiza 6L Throttle Body: Faulty Signal Quote

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