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Post02-01-2019, 21:18    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

Hello and good evening, dear forum members,
I'm having a problem. I bought some 50%+ injectors for my Seat Leon 1M with engine code ARL. I installed these parts, and also used new screws and seals for them (the vehicle was running perfectly fine until the parts were removed).
"When I tried to start it for the first time, it wouldn't crank, even after repeated attempts. Following advice from a friend, I suspected that the dowel pins might have broken during installation or that the new seals might have been damaged. So, I quickly disassembled everything, checked the parts, replaced the screws and seals, and reassembled it. However, it still wouldn't start, even with the original software. It was optimized, and even when I halved the starting injection amount, it still wouldn't start. I'm convinced that it's not injecting fuel, even though I drove the car to this point. My question is, how can I further investigate the cause of the problem?" I had the glow plugs removed, and there was no visible injection or atomization of fuel during the starting process. I hope you can help me, thank you in advance.


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Post02-01-2019, 22:11    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

Good evening.

As always, after you've read everything carefully, we introduce ourselves here:
1. Autoscan.
2. All relevant changes in the crafting area.

"If software and hardware changes have been made, what's the point of trying to guess? An ARL (presumably referring to a specific type of device or system) is at least 10 years old now, and I think there's an answer to every conceivable question here."

We can't see what you're doing, and we don't know the quality of your work. Hopefully, before any software is modified or adapted, everything is mechanically and electrically as it should be.


Oh, by the way, just so you know, without me trying to put you down or anything.


The title of your post is really well-done... it fits perfectly with the rest.


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Post02-01-2019, 22:21    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

Thank you for the quick response, and please excuse the title and the post. As you can probably see, this is my very first post in this kind of online forum.

The error memory is clear except for a crash sensor located under the passenger seat.
Only the software has been updated, and it is now standard. It also has a hybrid charging system, and otherwise, everything is in order, both mechanically and electrically. Sure, here's the translation:

"Best regards," or "Sincerely,"
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Post03-01-2019, 1:18    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

What is the source of these +50% PDE values?
Are you sure everything is okay with that?
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Post03-01-2019, 9:17    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

Does the pre-lift pump activate when the ignition is turned on?


Spray a small amount of starting fluid into the air filter while cranking, but only until the engine starts to rev up. I was only able to get my friend's BKC engine running after replacing the head gasket in the same way, and since then it's been starting perfectly.
Sommer: A4 B5 Avant 2,5 TDI Quattro Facelift (AKN silber)

Wartet auf H Kennzeichen: A4 B5 Avant 1.9 TDI Quattro (AFN Schwarz)

Winter: A4 B5 Avant TDI Quattro (AFN rot)

Alltags Spardose: Audi A2 1.4 TDI (AMF Silber)


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Post03-01-2019, 10:08    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

The nozzles are from the bay and are new.

Yes, the booster pump is running.

I've already tried that. It runs with starting spray, but without it, it doesn't do anything at all, not even a sign that it's going to start.
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Post03-01-2019, 12:25    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

Hello Henner,

Okay, spontaneously, three things come to mind:

Let the pre-lift pump run for a longer duration via VCDS.
Check (test) the PDE wiring harness.
Check the fuel filter for cracks or replace it with a different fuel filter.

It seems like no fuel is reaching the engine.

That being said, these 50% nozzles seem very suspicious to me... But let's put that aside for now. Good luck.
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Post03-01-2019, 12:31    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

I managed to get it running for a short time. Please see the attachment.



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Post03-01-2019, 12:36    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

All the correction values for the fuel injection quantities are at their maximum limits. Awesome nozzles. (Irony off)

BTW. Interesting are also the cracked VAG Com files in the background icon_eek.gif.

I'm going to withdraw and leave the rest to fate...
Beste Grüße,
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Post03-01-2019, 12:46    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

There's nothing cracked here... these are just different versions of VCDs. Thank you for your tip. How can I prevent them from running at full speed?
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Post03-01-2019, 19:21    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

The best thing to do is send them back to where you got them... alternatively, you could hang them on the wall as decoration, or maybe create some small artwork with them. Or, place it next to the PC as a memorial before the next bargain is acquired.

Besides that, I can't think of anything else.


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Post03-01-2019, 21:36    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

Okay, the components on cylinders 1 and 4 are faulty, which is why the engine isn't running. The correction values were at their maximum because the accelerator pedal was in the full-throttle position; otherwise, the engine would have stalled.
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Post03-01-2019, 21:52    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

How do you know that 1 and 4 are defective?
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Post03-01-2019, 21:54    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

When I release the accelerator pedal, cylinders 2 and 3 adjust, while cylinders 1 and 4 do not.



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Post03-01-2019, 23:15    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

Aha.
Are you sure about your understanding of the LLR function?
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Post03-01-2019, 23:18    Subject: Starting problems with 1.9 TDI after injector replacement Quote

Okay, please provide the German text you would like me to translate.
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