150 PD: Buy or not?

Hello,

One doesn't really hear much positive about the reliability of this engine. On the other hand, the performance is quite impressive, and there are some good deals available. Do you think it's reasonable to buy this engine without too much concern? Do the parts of this engine actually get changed as soon as possible when customers complain about frequent problems?
Unfortunately, the 130 PD as an alternative doesn't exist, Leon.
@ Jan 6K The gearbox should be quite long, or is this simply the final gear ratio of a 5-speed gearbox installed here?

Yeah... check out the document I posted (see thread "Desired Gearbox") on page 13 for the Leon.

There, the 6th gear is set up so that at 1000 rpm, it corresponds to 52.8 km/h. With the 130 Ibiza, it would be 59.8. So, also irgendwo dazwischen, beim 110 PS TDI (mit 5-Gang) liegt der Leon etwa gleichauf mit dem Ibiza (und Golf) - 44,5 km/h bei 1000 im 5., beim (alten) Ibiza sind das laut Tabelle 44,9.

The values from the old Ibiza are not in this file anymore, so check the Cordoba instead, as it apparently still uses the old Ibiza as a basis.

Conclusion: The best engine remains the one in the new Ibiza, with 130 horsepower. Even larger cars like the Leon and Toledo are not as well-translated...

But the 6th gear of the Leon with 150 hp is definitely better than the longest 5th gear. Operation of a 5-Speed Manual Transmission.

By the way... I think these values in km/h at 1000 RPM in top gear are much better than the specified gear ratio values. This way, you can better visualize things without having to do a lot of calculations.

Best regards,

Jan

I would definitely go for the 150 without hesitation...although the 130 is also just a restricted 150, if you don't constantly rev the 150 to its full potential, the engine will last just as long as a 130...

Hello,

So, ich habe auch einen GOLF TDI PD 150, Baujahr 03/01, und er macht keine Probleme. Er hatte nur einmal etwas Diesel an der Prüfschraube verloren, aber das war kein großes Problem. Er ist sparsam und kraftvoll.

Buy the 150. It works very well, powerful and quiet. And I even think I'm better prepared for the job than someone with a 130-point score.

'The 130 is also just a restricted 150.' That's not entirely accurate.
- Engine block made of higher-quality metal
- Crankshaft and connecting rod (?) of high quality
- Lighter and higher-quality piston
- Larger nozzles
- Turbo and Intercooler: Larger

I think that's it.

Have fun with whatever you buy.

S

Hi,

Buy it!!! You probably won't find a better diesel experience for your money. For a small additional fee, you can obtain an extended warranty of 4 years, as far as I know. In 3 Jahren, there will definitely be something even better, and you can sell it with an additional year of warranty...

Greetings

Eike

@ TDI 180

You're wrong...except for the turbo and the LLK, the 130 and the 150 are identical...

In the Gute-Fahrt forum, someone checked the part numbers and found that, for example, the block, crankshaft, PD elements, etc. are all the same (same part number)...

Nicolaus--130PD wrote:

@ TDI 180 You're wrong...except for the turbo and the LLK, the 130 and the 150 are identical... In the Gute-Fahrt forum, someone looked at the part numbers and found that, for example, the block, crankshaft, PD elements, etc. are all the same (same part number)...

Hello, I hope that some part numbers were not forgotten, or how do you explain the different compression ratios?
19:1 and 18.5:1?

Hello, Rainer

Hello,

The crankshaft is not the same.

130 hp (ASZ) 038 105 021 C
150 hp (ARL) 038 105 021 K

Hi everyone,

The notification in GuteFahrt comes from me, as I discussed this with a friend (see also below). Now, unfortunately, I was just too lazy and only compared the model year 2003.

I'll just stick to the golf

038 105 021 C, Model Year 2001, 2002, ATD, AJM, AUY
038 105 021 L, Model Year 2001, 2002 ASZ
038 105 021 K, Model Year 2001, 2002 ARL

Now, it could also be an error in AKTE:
038 105 021 C, Model Year 2003, ATD, AXR
038 105 021 K, Model Year 2003, ASZ, ARL

Here is part number 038 105 021, which has been lost. I have now concluded that ASZ and ARL have the same parts because the part numbers are the same. This applies to several other parts in 2003 as well.

Best regards, Hugo

However, if we assume that a higher letter represents a 'better quality,' then the 130 might actually be a step back from L to K... Since the 130 was introduced before the 150, the parts should have had a letter designation under K instead.

@ hugo.....What about the year 2002?

Hi,
I've compared a few things for MJ2002.

are:
-Pump/Nozzle
-Cylinder block
- Connecting Rod
-Valves
-Camshaft
-Oil pump
-Oil cooler
-Air filter
-Coupling

not equal to:
-Exhaust manifold with turbo
-Intake Air Cooler
-Control Unit

Special cases:-)
The ARL and ASZ with automatic transmission have an EGR exhaust cooler.
For the ASZ, there are two different pistons available: one is identical to the ARL (Alcan 79.46), and the other is specifically designed for the ASZ (Mahle 79.44).
And as mentioned above, the crankshaft in the MJ 2002 has a different part number.
Therefore, I wouldn't believe it would be better/worse depending on the letters.
Best regards, Hugo

That sounds great... so my 130 should easily handle a tuning to 155 hp...

So, maybe it's worth asking ***? Let's think about it....

Thank you for all the responses.

I chose the 150PD option.

Hi Hugo,

You seem to know a lot about this.

Thank you and best regards.
Snuff


Hi,
I've compared a few things for MJ2002.

are:
-Pump/Nozzle
-Cylinder block
- Connecting Rod
-Valves
-Camshaft
-Oil pump
-Oil cooler
-Air filter
-Coupling

not equal to:
-Exhaust manifold with turbo
-Intake Air Cooler
-Control Unit

Special cases:-)
The ARL and ASZ with automatic transmission have an EGR exhaust cooler.
For the ASZ, there are two different pistons available: one is identical to the ARL (Alcan 79.46), and the other is specifically designed for the ASZ (Mahle 79.44).
And as mentioned above, the crankshaft in the MJ 2002 has a different part number.
Therefore, I wouldn't believe it would be better/worse depending on the letters.
Best regards, Hugo