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Post09-07-2012, 22:48    Subject: Signal for standby time from the AI is not being issued Quote

Am folgenden Komplettscan vom Passat aus der Signatur sieht man, dass 2 Fehler abgelegt sind. Einer im ABS Steuergerät und einer in der Climatronic. Die beiden Fehler hängen zusammen. Es geht um das Signal für Standzeit wie man an den Screenshots erkennen kann. Dieses Signal kommt vom grünen Stecker am KI über ein grünes Kabel zu einem orangen Verbinder unten an der linken A Säule. Von dort geht es dann zur Climatronic und zum ABS. Die Leitungen haben Durchgang und sind nicht unterbrochen. Das Signal wird vom KI offensichtlich nicht ausgegeben. Vor geraumer Zeit habe ich das werksseitig verbaute KI 3B0 920 822 A gegen das KI 3B0 920 842A getauscht. Grund waren die grosse MFA samt Navi Zweitdisplay und die Optik. KI has a 3BG tachometer with chrome rings.Since this AI was installed, these errors have been resolved.
By the way, the ABS (Anti-lock Braking System) is working perfectly, and no warning tones or messages are displayed on the instrument cluster.
Personally, I can live with those two stored error codes. However, in the future, the TÜV (German technical inspection authority) also wants to read out various control units during the vehicle inspection. The braking system control unit will certainly be one of them. Everyone can imagine what will happen when the inspector finds these error codes. And discussions about their irrelevance will certainly be a waste of time.
Therefore, the question is: Is this signal a constant current of 5V or 12V, or is it a data signal? Can I tap into it somewhere else and directly feed it into the green wire at the instrument cluster? If I do that, the ABS system will get what it needs, and everything will be quiet.
Can I prevent the error entry by making changes to the dataset using AI? The necessary equipment is available.
The AI itself does not store any errors.
This AI usually works perfectly and I really like it. I would like to keep it. However, if no solution is found, I will have to acquire a different AI, at least for the HU (likely referring to a specific system or component), and the conversion process is unfortunately quite involved.

Sunday, July 1, 2012, 20:51:43:49654
VCDS Version: RKS 11.11.3
Data as of: 20120406

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um spazieren zu gehen oder ein Picknick im Park zu machen. Viele Menschen genießen das gute Wetter und verbringen Zeit im Freien."
"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um spazieren zu gehen oder ein Picknick im Park zu machen. Viele Menschen genießen das gute Wetter und verbringen Zeit im Freien."

Vehicle type: 3B - VW Passat B5.
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 35 36 37 46 47 55 56 57 58 75 76 77


Mileage: 294,130 km
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 01: Engine, File label: RKS\038-906-019-AJM.lbl
Part number: 038 906 019 CE.
Component: 1.9L R4 EDC 0040SG 1041.
Encoding: 00002
Operating number: WSC 05311
VCID: 5CBC411ACC30A69

No error codes found.
Readiness: 0 0 X X X

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 03: Brakes Label file: RKS\8D0-907-389.lbl
Part number: 8D0 907 389 D.
Component: ABS/ESP front D36
Encoding: 04255
Operating number: WSC 05311
VCID: 346CC9BA04204E9

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"1 error found:"
01203 - ABS/Switchboard insert, electrical connection.
31-00 - Short circuit to ground / Open circuit.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 08: Climate/Heating Label file: RKS\3Bx-907-044.lbl
Part number: 3B1 907 044 C.
Component: CLIMATRONIC C 0.7.0
Encoding: 02000
Operating number: WSC 05311
VCID: 214230EEABD2CB1

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"1 error found:"
01206 - Ignition off duration signal.
37-00 - defective.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 15: Airbag
Label file: RKS\6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part number: 6Q0 909 605 B.
Part: 05 AIRBAG VW5 0003
Encoding: 12341
Operating number: WSC 05311
VCID: 3668F3B2125C5C9

No error codes found.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 17: Combination Instrument
Label file: RKS\3B0-920-xx2-17.lbl
Part number: 3B0 920 842 A.
Bauteil: B5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V22
Encoding: 21045
Operating number: WSC 05311
VCID: 1F4636169DA6FD1


Subsystem 1 - Part number: IMMO
Part number: VWZ7Z0X2086388
IMMO IDENTIFICATION NUMBER: VWZ7Z0X2086388

No error codes found.

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 19: CAN-Gateway Label file: RKS\6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part number: 6N0 909 901.
Component: Gateway K<CAN> Keyboard error fixed icon_wink.gif



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Post10-07-2012, 20:43    Subject: Signal for standby time from the AI is not being issued Quote

I don't think that testing organizations routinely check for defects in relatively old vehicles.
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Post13-07-2012, 19:27    Subject: Signal for standby time from the AI is not being issued Quote

It would be great if that could stop happening.
The press reported that vehicles will be subject to stricter emissions standards. However, it also stated that these changes will only apply to vehicles newly registered from July 1, 2012, onwards.
But the test drive, which is also one of those changes, isn't that something they do with all vehicles?
http://www.auto-motor-info.de/cms/index.php?section=news&cmd=details&newsid=1320
It seems like you can only obtain those entries through a combination exchange. It would require purchasing a different part, installing it, and programming it. It would be exclusively for the sticker application. The thought of that is more than annoying.
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Post13-07-2012, 20:08    Subject: Signal for standby time from the AI is not being issued Quote

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By the way, the ABS is working perfectly, and no warning tones or messages are displayed on the instrument cluster.


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The new regulation, after its approval, is expected to come into effect on July 1, 2012, and will apply to vehicles that were newly registered from that date onwards.


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Passat Variant AJM 11/99


What's your problem? That doesn't apply to the car.
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Post14-07-2012, 5:51    Subject: Signal for standby time from the AI is not being issued Quote

Yes, you're right. I only read yesterday that this study only applies to new vehicles.
It's all the same to me. It will be interesting to see how it's actually implemented in practice. If they end up reading data from older vehicles as well, then I'll unfortunately have to get a different car. There's no other way to fix the "problem."
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