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HolyDream Guest
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13-06-2002, 19:20 Subject: |
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As I said, I think €8,000 is too much money for a G3 from the 1996 model year with an AFN engine, no extras, and 100,000 km on the clock.
NO!
So, is the renovation more expensive?
A TD would cost almost €3000, while a used engine certainly wouldn't cost €5000. If I can get a PD for about €2500 with the transmission, 
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Docter Guest
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13-06-2002, 22:05 Subject: |
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If you don't care about fuel efficiency and also value driving performance, then take a look at the factory specifications for the AFN, ABF (150 hp 16v as a comparison to the 1.8T, which is similar), and something else.
Just throwing it out there.
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HolyDream Guest
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13-06-2002, 22:55 Subject: |
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where can I find the technical specifications?
Is everything available at vw.de?
If you don't care about fuel efficiency?, and if, besides the sound, driving performance is also important to you?
What is this related to?
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Docter Guest
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13-06-2002, 23:00 Subject: |
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Regarding cost-effectiveness: You need to drive a diesel car for quite a few kilometers each year for it to be worth it, considering the higher taxes, insurance costs, and maintenance expenses (potentially).
Regarding performance:
0-100 km/h / Top speed.
GTI TDI (AFN 110 hp) - 10.8 seconds, 193 km/h.
GTI, 115 horsepower, 10.4 seconds, 196 [units - likely km/h or mph].
GTI 16V, 150 horsepower, 8.7 seconds (0-100 km/h), 220 km/h (top speed).
The AFN engine with a chip tuning upgrade of approximately 140 horsepower will likely achieve a 0-60 mph time of around 9 to 9.5 seconds.
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HolyDream Guest
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13-06-2002, 23:17 Subject: |
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'So, those 300 euros in annual taxes definitely pay off considering the fuel consumption!'
Is the insurance for TDIs more expensive? That's news to me!
'The maximum speed (vmax) isn't really that important either; who actually drives continuously at the current Autobahn speed limit of 120 km/h and reaches their vmax?'
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Docter Guest
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13-06-2002, 23:23 Subject: |
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Insurance is more expensive.
The oil is more expensive and there's more of it needed compared to the 4-cylinder engine.
Replacing the timing belt is expensive.
One should be clear about that.
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Arne Guest
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14-06-2002, 8:55 Subject: |
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And you should be aware that you will fill up the AFN's fuel tank for about €40 each time, and the 1.8 T for about €50...
And you are GUARANTEED to drive 30% more kilometers with a full tank of AFN fuel.
I'm talking about a normal to very fast driving style. I've driven both cars and also filled up the gas tanks for both.
If you don't care about economy and practicality, then buy the 1.8 T. - oh yeah: The AFN is a 1.9 T .
nothing for unguat.
Arne.
P.S. - Just think about the renovation costs... it's *much* more than you think. Trust me. I personally went bankrupt doing a renovation.  
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HolyDream Guest
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14-06-2002, 9:47 Subject: |
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Okay, so the conversion is being done by factory workers, but they're not just doing standard engine modifications; they're completely overhauling it, including converting it to a 1.8T engine.
Now I'm back at the beginning...
Hmm, it seems there are still a few things to consider.
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