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Post13-07-2008, 20:41    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

Hello everyone!

I would like to know if it is possible to inspect a natural gas heating system even when it has been modified or expanded. In the built-in state, I'm familiar with the old "tapping test," but it doesn't help much when the part is lying on the workbench.

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Post13-07-2008, 21:57    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

Hi,

The NHG (presumably a German organization or standard) cannot be reliably verified unless you physically drive around. The part can work perfectly for an hour, and then suddenly it stops functioning for a few seconds.
Checking the engine control unit's fault memory is the most effective way to diagnose the problem.

Edit: Technical article about the needle knock sensor, /viewtopic.php?t=26339

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Post14-07-2008, 15:58    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

That's a shame... I guess I'll have to find a way to install it and try it out. Thank you for the response!


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Post15-07-2008, 9:22    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

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That's a shame... then I'll probably have to find a way to install it and try it out. Thank you for the answer!


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How about connecting the NHG to the cable, turning on the ignition, and logging into the engine control unit?
This should be sufficient as a preliminary test.


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Post15-07-2008, 14:18    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

You can also make a resistance test icon_wink.gif in a simpler way.
"Furthermore, I believe that NHGs are more likely to fail due to mechanical problems than electrical ones."
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Post15-07-2008, 14:35    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

I performed a resistance test on my faulty NH fuse (error code: short circuit to +) and couldn't detect any difference.
What does a mechanical failure look like in a new car?


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Post16-07-2008, 10:40    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

Something might be stuck or broken. This is roughly what the inside of the thing looks like.

...or it could simply be an exposed (uninsulated) spot on the cable.



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Post23-07-2008, 7:40    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

Sure, I also have a question about that.
Does the NHG provide a resistance signal, or is it positive/negative?
I'm asking because I just installed a new one myself.
The Aber of the new generation was a different type of plug adapter, costing 80 euros.
I quickly modified the plug.
Now, I've mixed up the cable connections on my old device, and I'm not sure which cable goes where.
Is there a way to measure that?
The plug indicates +/- for the NHG cables, but unfortunately, both cables are white with no markings.
I would like to keep it as a spare part, since the injector nozzle was still okay after the leak.
Oh, I swapped it out because two nozzles were clogged.
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Post16-01-2018, 22:38    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

Let me dig that thing out. I unfortunately have the NHG here without the connector housing, and I really didn't want to connect it with the wrong polarity. icon_smile_thumb_up.gif


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Post17-01-2018, 10:36    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

How will you distinguish between the two wires?
Both of them are, in fact, the leads of the same coil.
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Post17-01-2018, 10:49    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

Since it's white, there's nothing visible. Therefore, it seems like it doesn't matter.


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Post17-01-2018, 11:41    Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition Quote

marson wrote:
Since they are white, there is none. Therefore, it seems that it doesn't matter?

It shouldn't really matter, but the effort required for a test drive to try it out is manageable, as there are only two possible options.

A test without a car can only be performed using an oscilloscope, a power supply, and a contact device. It probably wouldn't be worth it.


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