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schimme Blaumann

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13-07-2008, 20:41 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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Hello everyone!
I would like to know if it is possible to inspect a natural gas heating system even when it has been modified or expanded. In the built-in state, I'm familiar with the old "tapping test," but it doesn't help much when the part is lying on the workbench.
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glimmer
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13-07-2008, 21:57 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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Hi,
The NHG (presumably a German organization or standard) cannot be reliably verified unless you physically drive around. The part can work perfectly for an hour, and then suddenly it stops functioning for a few seconds.
Checking the engine control unit's fault memory is the most effective way to diagnose the problem.
Edit: Technical article about the needle knock sensor, /viewtopic.php?t=26339
Best regards, Rainer.
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schimme Blaumann

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14-07-2008, 15:58 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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That's a shame... I guess I'll have to find a way to install it and try it out. Thank you for the response!
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Tagessuppe Profi-Schrauber

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15-07-2008, 9:22 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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schimme wrote: | | That's a shame... then I'll probably have to find a way to install it and try it out. Thank you for the answer! |
How about connecting the NHG to the cable, turning on the ignition, and logging into the engine control unit?
This should be sufficient as a preliminary test.
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15-07-2008, 14:18 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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You can also make a resistance test  in a simpler way.
"Furthermore, I believe that NHGs are more likely to fail due to mechanical problems than electrical ones."
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15-07-2008, 14:35 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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I performed a resistance test on my faulty NH fuse (error code: short circuit to +) and couldn't detect any difference.
What does a mechanical failure look like in a new car?
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16-07-2008, 10:40 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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Something might be stuck or broken. This is roughly what the inside of the thing looks like.
...or it could simply be an exposed (uninsulated) spot on the cable.
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A6 Andreas Blaumann

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23-07-2008, 7:40 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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Sure, I also have a question about that.
Does the NHG provide a resistance signal, or is it positive/negative?
I'm asking because I just installed a new one myself.
The Aber of the new generation was a different type of plug adapter, costing 80 euros.
I quickly modified the plug.
Now, I've mixed up the cable connections on my old device, and I'm not sure which cable goes where.
Is there a way to measure that?
The plug indicates +/- for the NHG cables, but unfortunately, both cables are white with no markings.
I would like to keep it as a spare part, since the injector nozzle was still okay after the leak.
Oh, I swapped it out because two nozzles were clogged.
Best regards,
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16-01-2018, 22:38 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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Let me dig that thing out. I unfortunately have the NHG here without the connector housing, and I really didn't want to connect it with the wrong polarity. 
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17-01-2018, 10:36 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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How will you distinguish between the two wires?
Both of them are, in fact, the leads of the same coil.
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17-01-2018, 10:49 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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Since it's white, there's nothing visible. Therefore, it seems like it doesn't matter.
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17-01-2018, 11:41 Subject: Needle injector check - disassembled condition |
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marson wrote: | | Since they are white, there is none. Therefore, it seems that it doesn't matter? |
It shouldn't really matter, but the effort required for a test drive to try it out is manageable, as there are only two possible options.
A test without a car can only be performed using an oscilloscope, a power supply, and a contact device. It probably wouldn't be worth it.
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