Erfahrungsbericht ATE Ceramic Bremsbeläge | Posts 32+

According to the table on at-rs.de, the mentioned pads are compatible with all disc types.

Increased braking power when the brakes are warm is a characteristic of sports brake pads, which are highly durable but need to be warmed up before a race.

I've been using EBC Greenstuff brake pads for a few years now, and I'm quite satisfied with them.

I have the standard ATE brake discs and ceramic brake pads on the front, and after about 50,000 km, there have been no issues. No scratches, just a slight surface rust that is visible through the coating.

"In the rear, I had TRW brake discs installed, and I only replaced the pads with ATE Ceramic pads. The pads weren't compatible with the discs. They showed a poor wear pattern, and the pads weren't able to effectively remove rust from the discs during braking."

However, even with Ate original brake pads, the TRW pads didn't really work well.

Braking performance, less toxic than with "conventional" pads, and easier to modulate.
It requires slightly more pedal pressure, but the braking effect is the same.

The amount of brake dust has decreased by a good 90%, which is really great.
I don't want to trade anymore.

I've already performed a few high-speed braking maneuvers from maximum velocity, deliberately trying to induce high stress levels. In these situations, the ceramic brakes haven't exactly lived up to expectations. The loud noise and significant fading will likely lead me to choose OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) brake pads again when it's time for a replacement. However, I probably won't be driving the GTD for much longer, so I won't be downgrading the brakes anymore.

The image quality remains excellent.

I had major problems with ATE Ceramic, see: https://community.dieselschrauber.org/en/viewtopic.php?t=28806

I can't believe it, I was just browsing a tax website for my C211 and came across ceramic brake pads.

Below the product description, you will find a note:

Quote:

NOTE: Under ATE reference number 13.0470-2732.2, in 2015, ATE changed the friction material composition, resulting in the primary advantage of extremely long service life no longer being achieved. (Performance is equivalent to standard quality). This quality is offered more cheaply by our competitors. At our request, ATE has reintroduced the original quality under a different ATE reference number, ...9000.2, as a special taxi version. You can currently obtain this particularly economical and long-lasting quality almost exclusively from us.

Is there any truth to that, and are the brake pads for other manufacturers also affected by this change?

Hi,
I regret to say that I can only confirm the negative experiences that have been shared here.

I own a Fabia 6Y RS (1.9TDI with front brake discs: 288mm Lucas, rear brake discs: 232mm Lucas). Around the same time, ATE Powerdisc brake discs were installed all around, along with ATE Ceramic brake pads. After about 1 year and 12,000 km, the braking performance was very poor. Even the TÜV (German technical inspection agency) refused to pass the rear brakes.

The wear pattern showed unusual grooves and surface structures on the brake discs. Additionally, the brake pads were only making partial contact, which naturally explains the significantly reduced braking performance.

Since then, the brakes have been upgraded with Brembo MAX brake discs combined with standard Brembo brake pads, and the braking system is now working very well and provides excellent responsiveness.

I installed ceramic brake pads on my B7 using the original rotors. It worked perfectly. No rust, no squealing (that's why I replaced the original rotors at around 60,000 km), and good braking performance.

Since the images above are also from a B7, I'm a bit surprised.

"But it seems like it's definitely a city car or a car designed for low speeds. I'm not exactly someone who's easygoing about these things, and I tend to accelerate quite aggressively."

For my A5, I'm now considering replacing the front brake discs, as the original ones are almost worn out after only 30,000 km. However, the discs already have a noticeable lip. It's possible that brake discs are generally made with a softer material these days. Previously, I was under the impression that the discs should last twice as long as the brake pads.

BigBob wrote:

Hi, I regret to say that I can only confirm the negative experiences that have been shared here. I own a Fabia 6Y RS (1.9TDI with front brake discs: 288mm Lucas, rear brake discs: 232mm Lucas). Around the same time, ATE Powerdisc brake discs were installed all around, along with ATE Ceramic brake pads. After about 1 year and 12,000 km, the braking performance was very poor. Even the TÜV (German technical inspection agency) refused to approve the rear brakes. The wear pattern also showed unusual grooves and surface structures on the brake discs. Furthermore, the pads were only making partial contact, which naturally explains the significantly reduced braking performance. Since then, it has been converted to use Brembo MAX brake discs in combination with Brembo standard brake pads, and the braking system is working very well and provides a direct feel.

Well, it's actually well-known that ceramic brake pads react quite negatively to slotted or drilled rotors. ATE themselves advise against this combination in their online catalog.