Polo 6N1 Getriebe DKE | Posts 32+

olli wrote:

So, as it seems, either the clutch lever must be bent strongly towards the flywheel (or worn down), or the problem lies elsewhere. Have you already checked the pedals and the spray booth? A spray wall that has been installed in the area of rope rigging would exactly achieve the effect you describe. A bent/broken pedal or a detached pedal block also. edit: Just heard that in a polo, a plastic block is used as a counter-support on the splash shield. It could also be the case that he gives up.

The pedal block is made of plastic. However, I will examine it more closely. The spray booth also looks good.

The problem definitely has something to do with heat.

I can't see any defects in the mechanism. Neither on the pedal/pedal block nor on the splash shield. The only noticeable thing is a slight squeaking sound when operating the release lever. Furthermore, it is observed that after repeated operation, the tension of the rope decreases, because the release lever does not immediately return to its original position.

I am currently in the process of removing the transmission. If it's sunny tomorrow, we'll know more.

Gear is out. When I was expanding it, the clutch lever immediately came into play because the springs no longer held.

Then I looked at the GKB and was surprised to find that it was a SET (or is this not a GKB?) with the code number 085.301.103 instead of the DKE as shown on the sticker in the trunk.

I can't identify any defects, except for the release lever. The only explanation I have is that it didn't act on the entire printing plate, but rather only on a few of the grooves, as can be seen from the scratches.

The feathers can also get tired...

Rüdi wrote:

The feathers can also get tired...

Can this be tested? Can I be sure that there isn't anything else?

I'm not in the mood to find out after installing a new clutch kit that it's actually something different.

Should the clutch release drum (which rotates when the clutch is disengaged with the pressure plate) be shown in the center of the second image?
It seems to be almost completely gone, or completely pressed in, so that the frame comes against the printing plate on the outside. Therefore, the footprints as well.
So sollte es in etwa aussehen:
http://www.daparto.de/Ausruecklager/VW-Polo-III-6N/2-2216-1077
hg
Herbert

Herbert wrote:

Is that the release lever's drum (which rotates when disengaging with the pressure plate) in the middle of the second image? It seems to be almost completely gone, or completely pressed in, so that the frame comes against the printing plate on the outside. Therefore, the footprints as well.

Yes.

The release lever immediately fell out of the clutch bell when removed. I can't explain it either. But one of the retaining arms is bent. I am unfortunately unable to reconstruct how the spring could have bent in this way and how the release lever was able to function in this condition.

On the outer edge of the lamellae (pressure plate), it is bluish in color. Looks like it's going to be okay.

Eine Erklärung habe ich.

We assume that the printing plate is worn. By installing the manual rope, I was able to apply so much pressure that the release lever has become stuck in the lamellae, and when decoupling, the spring has been bent back. Since then, the rack has not been in its original position and has caused the scratches.

It doesn't help to summarize; new clutch, gearbox reinstalled, and then you'll know what's actually the case. Fortunately, everything goes relatively well with the Polo.

I have also now removed the record and the disc. I can't see any defects. I will now order a new kit. Then it will become clear whether it was due to that.

You cannot tell whether a clutch lining is hardened, nor whether the springs are worn.

Hi,

Based on the images alone, is it possible that the return lever has become quite deeply embedded in the plunger spring? For me, it looks like there is hardly any material left on some of the lamellae.

That would certainly explain the effect. However, one should have heard this quite some time ago.

Greetings from Berlin,
olli

There were no noises coming from the release lever.

Hi,

take a look here [url]http://docplayer.org/9203033-Damage diagnosis guide for the assessment of failures in the coupling system.html[/url] on page 8

Greetings from Berlin,
olli

Yesterday I received the new Sachs kit. The gearbox is now back in its place. I will finish the remaining work tonight.

Hereby the comparison images old against new.

It is complete. Polo is "on the road again".

I only took a short test drive yesterday. I didn't feel like doing anything more. The gear changes can be performed without any issues. Also, the reverse gear also no longer makes a noise.

I hope it stays this way. Because I can't explain this wear and tear after 100,000 km.