Long 5. Maintenance schedule for Lupo 1.4 TDI

Hello everyone


I'm currently considering whether I should do something about the high fuel prices, and whether I should buy a Lupo 1.4 TDI to go with my Allroad 2.5 TDi.
I know that this is a little bit schizo.
But I sometimes drive long distances alone, and in those cases, I don't always need a constant 2 cubic meters of storage space and a 1.9-ton curb weight . Besides, it's also quite good in the city.
With my chipped Ex A3, I had very good experiences related to long-lasting battery life. Walk and chip tuning.
Now, I'd like to plan ahead a bit and wonder if this will also work with the Lupo 1.4 TDi with engine code AMF.
My logic says yes.
The Gertiebe should be: EBG ESP and EXB. For the latter, the translation of the 5th [element/item] is needed. Ganges 34:45, which is 0.755.
I was thinking of a translation in the range of 0.67.
The 3L is supposed to have an extremely long gear ratio, and with a chip, it should be able to reach 205 km/h according to the speedometer (thanks to its aerodynamics).

What do you think about it?

If you're driving long distances alone, and possibly at a fast speed, then my rule is:
"The shorter the car, the faster you'll die."
Also in the city: under the Polo 9 N - hopefully no accidents...
The transition is likely to be significant.
You can also drive the Polo with fuel consumption of 4.5 to 6.5 liters.

Absolutely avoid the ESP transmission! Almost all of them fail between 110,000 and 140,000 kilometers. If you must choose one, go for the EXB. It seems durable and has been installed with the AMF from the beginning on the A2 model.

teileklaus wrote:

If you drive long distances alone, and possibly quickly, then for me, the rule is: "The shorter the car, the faster you'll die." Also in the city: under the Polo 9 N - hopefully no accidents... The transition is likely to be significant. You also drive the Polo with 4.5 to 6.5 liters

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Thank you for the tip! I'm going to buy a tank now .
I drove my A3 with a fuel consumption of 4.5 to 6.5 liters, and that was sometimes the case. Sporty.
For the Lupo, the range should be between 3.5 and 5.
And the advantage of having an A6 in a crash only comes into play if I crash into a smaller car.
I drove an 80,000 km in a Toyota Starlet EP70, model year 1986, weighing 700 kg and with 50 horsepower, and it didn't have an airbag, and I survived.
And even a Mercedes-Benz S-Class couldn't help Lady Di.
And now, let's move on to the topic of long-lasting batteries. Walking with the Lupo.

@Brezelmann: Is that ESP the semi-automatic transmission from the 3L model, or is it a standard manual transmission?
Do you know if these transmissions are built the same way as the ones for the 1.9 models, meaning, is the 5th gear as easy to replace?

@ Lupo: The human will is its own kingdom. I'm familiar with it from my experience in the emergency medical services.

The ESP is the standard manual transmission, and it was mostly used. I believe the EXB system wasn't actually put into use until quite late.
Achieving a fuel consumption of under 4.3 liters per 100 kilometers with the Lupo under "normal" driving conditions is likely only possible on country roads with a constant speed of 70 or 100 kilometers per hour. "So, achieving a score of 3 is almost impossible!"
Unfortunately, I can't provide any information about assembly or replacement.



EDIT: I made a mistake with the license plate letters; I have now corrected it! I'm sorry.

Hello,
I'm driving an A2 motorcycle with an AMF exhaust, and GKB EWQ components.
and I had a long 5 installed in Dortmund with a value of 0.64583333333333....
Costs approximately 320,- in exchange. Check wewewe.automatigetriebe.dee.

Highly recommended, some people in the A2 forum have tried it.
The A2 engine has a rev limiter set at 180, which restricts its maximum RPM to 3500.
and it's very quiet.
'You can easily achieve less than 5 liters per 100 kilometers; my average consumption is around 4.5 liters per 100 kilometers with an annual mileage of 50,000 kilometers.'
Extreme fuel efficiency of less than 4 liters per 100 kilometers is possible.

Been using it for 2 years and no problems.

Thomas.

Tagessuppe wrote:

And now, let's move on to the topic of long-lasting batteries. Walking with the Lupo. Do you know if these transmissions are built the same way as the ones for the 1.9 models, meaning, is the 5th gear as easy to replace?

"The 1.4 TDIs have a 02J transmission, so the 5th gear..." The transmission can be replaced just as easily as in the A3.

The 1.2 TDI engine was combined with the 085 gearbox because it doesn't need to transmit as much torque (maximum 140 Nm). However, the 5th gear can be easily swapped out there, as the design is similar to the 02J. Instead of metal lids, they have aluminum lids screwed on.
When combined with the 1.2 TDI engine, the transmission underwent changes beyond just the automation. These included a hollowed-out drive and output shaft, a reduction of 0.2 liters in oil capacity, modifications to the toothed wheel, and changes to the 5th gear. The gear is arranged like a spoked wheel, and the remaining gear wheels are facilitated by recesses in the side plates.

Best regards, Germa.

Yes, an A2 TDI is quite something. It's a much bigger car than a Lupo.
But 320 in exchange for the 5th gear? I paid 195 for my 0.63.
without returning the old part.
Well, but all things considered, I'm still strongly considering whether it's really worth it.
Having a "Spucki" as a second car. I mean, if I'm only driving in the city,
"My Allroad's fuel consumption of 15 liters per 100 kilometers doesn't bother me too much, because I can drive for a whole month on a single tank."
But if I drive from Vienna to Carinthia and back on the weekend, the gas tank will be empty in 3 days.
But that's exactly what makes driving the Allroad so much fun .

Do I notice a change in sensation there?

teileklaus wrote:

Do I notice a change in my senses?

Let's call it enlightenment .

Naughty question: does it have to be an Allroad ?
15 liters in the city
"My T4 van doesn't even need that."

teileklaus wrote:

Bad question: does it have to be an Allroad? 15 liters in the city That doesn't even need my T4 van

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The Lupo is too small and feels too unsafe for you.
The Allroad consumes too much fuel.
Which car should I buy now to meet your expectations?

A car is always a compromise.
Ideally, it would be best if everyone had five cars. A Smart for the city, an A8 for the highway, a Mercedes G for off-road driving, a VW bus when it's time to move, and a Ferrari when you're in a hurry again.
And an Allroad best fulfills my needs. Except for the fact that it has a low fuel consumption .

Yes, people always want to have it all. A small one for everyday use and a larger one for comfortable travel. The bus for the refrigerator, the set of 8 complete wheels, the "Meschpoke"...
You shouldn't buy something just because I recommend it. You won't either, if you have an Allroad.
But you just said that 15 liters is a lot for city driving, and I agree with you.

Given this, it seems logical for me to consider a Touran or Passat, which, admittedly with slightly less comfort, can still be quite fun to drive at speeds of 7-9 mph, and can even achieve fuel consumption of around 6 liters per 100 km if desired.
In my (and Ulf's) opinion, less is more. But less than Polo.
And I'm selling the T4 (9-11 liters). This is my solution.

Edit: Did Ö ever offer a seasonal license plate system where you could use a 4x4 vehicle in the winter and a regular car in the summer, all under one insurance policy?

The Lupo 1.4 TDI has an exceptionally long wheelbase for its size (comparable to the Polo 6N), and this translates into a very stable and confident driving experience, especially at higher speeds. You can definitely feel the front-heavy feel when braking, but even on its own, it's still quite controllable during emergency braking.
If you frequently drive long distances on the highway alone, it's important to have tires with good tread on the rear wheels, otherwise they are prone to aquaplaning, and if the road is slightly uneven, that's it – you're in trouble. However, it's significantly less problematic than with the 3L model, as it has a steel rear hatch and a full-size spare tire.
I would only install a chip for the long 5th gear. Otherwise, he might be able to push himself quite hard going uphill, possibly starting around 160.
I once considered making it easier to modify, and I have a chip. But I ended up not doing it. If the transmission is going to fail anyway, I might do it just for fun (I have an ESP installed, and it's the 3rd...). The timing chain has been worn out for the past 50,000 km.
I'm afraid that the express lane might not be worth it, and I might not be able to use the 5th lane in the city anymore.

Regards,

Olaf.

I did it...
5. Gang with a ratio of 0.70 instead of the standard 0.75555555...
Other available gear ratios:
(2. value = X% longer, 3. Value = Higher speed compared to Tempo 180 in series mode, while maintaining the same RPM.
0.717 5.4
0.7, 7.94, 14 km/h
0.681 10.1 18
0.658 14.8 21.7
0.621

0.7 corresponds to the standard transmission ratio for the 1.4 TDI A2 with 90 horsepower.
For me, this is the best compromise, as the car doesn't become a sand dune, and the shift to 4th gear is still suitable for country roads. Nevertheless, the engine speed noticeably decreases on the highway. Furthermore, the longer passages likely wouldn't achieve significantly higher top speeds without a tailwind, as the motor would eventually reach its limit.
Most other people with A2 75 HP AMF engines who have changed them are using a 0.68 ratio or longer, and they seem to be happy with it. But honestly, I can't imagine that a 0.658 ratio would be fun in the long run... One really has to prioritize acoustics and (minimal) fuel savings above all else.