VCDS and OBD diagnostic device in the On-Board Diagnostics Shop
Diesel, Engine Technology and Vehicle Technology. Repair, Maintenance and Diagnostics (OBD).

VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting

 
New Topic Reply 🔗 🖨 Dieselschrauber - Index » Diesel Engine Technology
Author Message
Notdieselfahrer



Joined: 10/26/2016
Posts: 2
Karma: +0 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Kaltensundheim
1990 Volkswagen Golf
Free account, no CAN development support

Post05-11-2017, 13:14    Subject: VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting Quote

Hello, I'm having a problem with the AFN engine in my Golf 2. It starts very poorly when it's warm. I've done some research, and it seems like many AFN engines have this issue. However, my problem seems relatively easy to solve. I noticed that the previous owner installed a coolant temperature sensor directly into the air intake. Now my question is, where are all the sensors located on the AFN engine? I haven't found a free space for one yet.

Thank you in advance for your answers.
Sincerely,
Max.


Translated on 06-09-2026, 15:36.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
Rüdi
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 03/05/2005
Posts: 1508
Karma: +643 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Nord/Osthessen
2001 Audi A4 Avant
Premium Support

Post05-11-2017, 16:10    Subject: VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting Quote

Hi.

I "told" (through MSG encoding) my Galaxy that it's an automatic, and since then, it's been starting up without any problems, even when warm.

Best regards,
Sommer: A4 B5 Avant 2,5 TDI Quattro Facelift (AKN silber)

Wartet auf H Kennzeichen: A4 B5 Avant 1.9 TDI Quattro (AFN Schwarz)

Winter: A4 B5 Avant TDI Quattro (AFN rot)

Alltags Spardose: Audi A2 1.4 TDI (AMF Silber)


Translated on 06-09-2026, 15:37.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
TDI-GTI-4-Motion
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber
Avatar-TDI-GTI-4-Motion

Joined: 02/22/2009
Posts: 3865
Karma: +127 / -0   Thank you, like it!

2002 Volkswagen Golf Consumption
Premium Support

dieselschrauber likes this.
Post08-11-2017, 23:35    Subject: VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting Quote

I don't think the coolant temperature sensor is in the airflow path, because if it were, the cable would also have to be extended, and the hole in the water flange would have to be plugged. I'm more inclined to believe that the AFN had, or at least once had, air conditioning, because in that case, it would have a temperature switch (which looks quite similar to the coolant temperature sensor) in the airflow path. icon_wink.gif
MfG. Michael

VW Golf IV TDI GTI 4-Motion Bj.2002 MKB/GKB: ARL/FEK
VW T4 Pritsche TDI Bj.1999 MKB/GKB: AXG/AFK (Selfmade)


Translated on 06-09-2026, 15:37.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
Steffen G
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 10/26/2006
Posts: 2558
Karma: +585 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: bei Zwickau

Premium Support

dieselschrauber likes this.
Post09-11-2017, 0:22    Subject: VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting Quote

Hi!

To the best of my knowledge, warm-start problems in engine generation are often caused by a starter motor speed that is too low.

Also Anlasser, Batterie, oder Kabel verschlissen. Contact problems.

As far as we know, this is supposed to prevent rough engine starts, but it only becomes effective above a certain coolant temperature.

"I've experienced something similar with my Golf. In winter, when the temperature was below -15°C, it would start immediately if it was warm, but usually it would be difficult to start if it was cold. This was simply due to the old battery, which is very difficult for ordinary people without a technical background to understand. However, this behavior is programmed into the engine control unit."

I would now, in this case, simply use a proper diagnostic system to read the engine coolant temperature from the engine control unit, as well as the engine speed during the starting process, when warm, and when cold.
I believe I recall that 300 RPM is required, but only above a certain coolant temperature.
Grüße, Steffen!

Golf 4 TDI,
T4 Doka-Pritsche, paar Oldtimer


Translated on 06-09-2026, 15:39.
Back to top Profile PM
Herbert
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 06/22/2005
Posts: 4619
Karma: +1337 / -0   Thank you, like it!


Premium Support

Post09-11-2017, 10:21    Subject: VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting Quote

Quote:
...in winter conditions, at temperatures below -15°C, it would start immediately if it was warm, but usually it started poorly. This was simply due to the old battery, which is very difficult to explain to ordinary people without a technical background.

I probably don't fully understand the nature of a battery yet. If it's old and it's very cold...? icon_eek.gif
As mentioned above, it is important to check the temperature sensors, as well as the valve timing.
hg
Herbert.
Horch A4 8K CJCD
Golf 7 DDYA
(+ Audi 80 Avant B4 1Z 475Tkm - habe ich vom ersten bis zum letzten Tag gerne gefahren)
(+ Passat Variant 32B CY 400Tkm)


Translated on 06-09-2026, 15:41.
Back to top Profile PM
Notdieselfahrer



Joined: 10/26/2016
Posts: 2
Karma: +0 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Kaltensundheim
1990 Volkswagen Golf
Free account, no CAN development support

Post09-11-2017, 11:36    Subject: VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting Quote

"Well, as an ordinary citizen without a technical background, I wouldn't exactly describe myself as an expert. Yes, there was/is an air conditioning system installed in the AFN, but it's more or less defunct, which could explain the temperature sensor issue."
I once measured the battery voltage during the starting process, and it didn't drop below 10V, so I think we can rule out the battery as a potential cause. This would then point to the typical starter motor problem common in AFN engines. However, as you mentioned, I will check the starting speed again before replacing it.

Thanks in advance for the tips!


Translated on 06-09-2026, 15:42.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
Rüdi
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 03/05/2005
Posts: 1508
Karma: +643 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Nord/Osthessen
2001 Audi A4 Avant
Premium Support

Post09-11-2017, 12:54    Subject: VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting Quote

"Use VCDS to recode the MSG module to enable automatic start. This will allow the starter motor to engage at a lower RPM, takes a few minutes, and costs 0.00 Euros."
Sommer: A4 B5 Avant 2,5 TDI Quattro Facelift (AKN silber)

Wartet auf H Kennzeichen: A4 B5 Avant 1.9 TDI Quattro (AFN Schwarz)

Winter: A4 B5 Avant TDI Quattro (AFN rot)

Alltags Spardose: Audi A2 1.4 TDI (AMF Silber)


Translated on 06-09-2026, 15:43.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
mechaniker89



Joined: 07/28/2013
Posts: 20
Karma: +3 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Frohnhofen, Germany

Premium Support

Post26-11-2017, 12:55    Subject: VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting Quote

Hi,
Okay, if I remember correctly, the AFN engine has an old-style distributor injection pump.
In these cases, I believe the following should be checked: 1. Starter speed. If that's okay, then check the compression. If the compression is okay, have the fuel injection pump checked, as well as the fuel injectors.


Normally, with this older technology, the problems are usually mechanical failures (assuming the temperature sensors are working correctly).

I recently had the fuel injection pump replaced on my Passat 1.9 TDI, and it cost me €300.
That would have been an AFN.
It has 290,000 kilometers on the odometer and starts very well, both when cold and when warm.

If you are interested, I can provide you with the company's address.

Greetings Julian icon_smile_thumb_up.gif


Translated on 06-09-2026, 15:44.
Back to top Profile PM
dieselschrauber
Administrator
Administrator
Avatar-dieselschrauber

Joined: 04/12/2002
Posts: 18096
Karma: +799 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: St.Gallen
2018 Volkswagen T6 Consumption


Turbinchen likes this.
Post26-11-2017, 13:24    Subject: VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting Quote

Hello.

Quote:
Normally, with this old technology, the problems are usually mechanical failures (assuming the temperature sensors are okay).

The fuel injection pump itself rarely fails to the extent that the vehicle won't start.
The injection start control can, at most, cause problems, which, although dangerous for the engine and having very unpleasant side effects, are irrelevant for the starting process. icon_idea.gif
Or, the ESP might be drawing in air through a worn-out pump shaft with a faulty seal, but at that point, you'd probably already notice that not only is air getting in, but fuel is also leaking out...

Having an injection pump overhauled solely due to starting difficulties is therefore very likely the best way to waste money. icon_exclaim.gif
It would be much more helpful to first determine why the car won't start.

Best regards, Rainer.


Translated on 06-09-2026, 15:46.
Back to top Profile PM WWW Garage
mechaniker89



Joined: 07/28/2013
Posts: 20
Karma: +3 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Frohnhofen, Germany

Premium Support

Post26-11-2017, 13:39    Subject: VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting Quote

Yes, Rainer, that's probably true.
But if everything else is okay, then it might be worth considering a pump.

However, if warm engines fail to start, the problem is usually related to issues with compression (pistons, valves) or incorrect readings from temperature sensors.

That's my experience.

Since the AFN engine isn't really a highly complex piece of technology, I think it can be easily determined with the help of a few testing tools.

Greetings Julian icon_smile_thumb_up.gif


Translated on 06-09-2026, 15:48.
Back to top Profile PM
dieselschrauber
Administrator
Administrator
Avatar-dieselschrauber

Joined: 04/12/2002
Posts: 18096
Karma: +799 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: St.Gallen
2018 Volkswagen T6 Consumption


Post27-11-2017, 11:35    Subject: VW Golf 2 Conversion Troubleshooting Quote

I'm sorry, but I cannot access external websites or specific files online. Therefore, I am unable to translate the text from the provided URL.

and specifically for starting problems:
Okay, I'm ready. Please provide the German text you want me to translate.


Translated on 06-09-2026, 15:49.
Back to top Profile PM WWW Garage
New Topic Reply 🔗 🖨 Dieselschrauber - Index » Diesel Engine Technology
Similar articles and topics
Topic Forum
No new posts VCDS: Troubleshooting Performance Issues Troubleshooting & Guides
No new posts Troubleshooting manual air conditioning system, Volkswage... Faults & Documentation (Audi, VW, Seat/Cupra, Skoda)
No new posts Hard landing - no error entry - troubleshooting? Faults & Documentation (Audi, VW, Seat/Cupra, Skoda)
No new posts Troubleshooting Volkswagen Golf 6 TDI 66kW (5K1) Diesel Engine Technology
No new posts Golf 3: 1.8 to AFN Conversion Guide Diesel Engine Technology
No new posts Umbau Golf 4 von ALH/DQY auf AXR/EUH Diesel Engine Technology
No new posts Is it possible to retrofit a VE-ESP system from a Golf 4 ... Diesel Engine Technology
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.