Allgemeiner Nutzwert von PD-Öl statt 505.00? | Posts 32+

Hi,

To my knowledge, the 506 00 and 505 00 specifications were only approved for vehicles *without* particulate filters (DPFs). The 506 01 and 505 01 specifications represented a more stringent requirement regarding shear stability. Only oils that were approved according to the 506 01 and 505 01 specifications were permitted for use in vehicles with DPFs.
It's described as follows: 505 00 for diesel engines without a common rail injection system (PD), and 505 01 for all diesel engines with and without a common rail injection system (PD).
The same applies to the 506 xx models, but with the addition of extra WIV (presumably a specific feature or component).

Edit: This is also stated in my vehicle's service booklet: Always use fuel type 505 01 or 506 01. Only use fuel types 505 00 or 506 00 in emergencies.


Regards,
Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"Micha"

Julian wrote:

ulf wrote: Julian wrote: Furthermore...50501 will in the future also be permitted for PD motors . And what would be new about that ? Weils nur für Dieselmotoren OHNE PD zulässig war....

Okay, and which standards do PDs (product development teams) currently need, to the best of your knowledge?

Aha, und welche Norm brauchen PD's dann (bisher) nach Deinem Wissensstand?

Siehe Mephistos obigen Beitrag.

I mistook it for 50500...

Mephisto wrote:

... new oil standard: 507 00: WIV, HTHS of at least 3.5, which is significantly better wear protection than 506 00 and 506 01, lower ash content, therefore required for vehicles with DPF. ...

I find that interesting. Does that mean less soot production?
I once read somewhere that a significant portion of the soot comes from burned motor oil.

(If anyone can get me a datasheet for a 50700 oil, please send it to me...)


http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_switzerland/STAGING/local_assets/downloads/s/slx_longlifeIII.pdf

Regards,

Tobias.

Julian wrote:

Habs mit 50500 verwechselt....

So, you wanted to talk about windows?

"Furthermore... the 50500 standard will also be applicable to PD engines in the future."

Where does the information come from?
The logic behind it seems quite outlandish to me.

So far, the following applied (in a simplified way):
PDs brauchen 505.01 oder 506.01, alles andere kann die Motoren killen.
Conversely, 505.00 could be a potential PD killer.

But suddenly, starting from a date xy, the same 505.00 can no longer damage the same PD motors

So, you wanted to talk about windows?

'Furthermore... the 50500 standard will also be applicable to PD engines in the future.'


No... I had overlooked, from the diagram by beetle24, that 50501 is also allowed for PDs. I actually thought that this was only for VEPs, but it is primarily for PDs and therefore also meets the VEP requirements.

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I find that interesting. Does that mean less soot production?

No, it's not about reduced soot formation, but rather a lower ash content when engine oil burns. This means the filter doesn't get clogged as quickly with non-combustible components (e.g., ash).

Best regards,
Albrecht.

Hi,

Quote:

No, not less soot formation, but a lower ash content when engine oil burns. This means that the filter does not clog as quickly with non-combustible components (e.g., ash).

Okay, that's right. Additives in engine oils burn, producing a significant amount of ash, which clogs the DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter). The DPF cannot regenerate from ash. Oils that are approved according to the 50700 standard (the same applies to DC 229.31) either contain few additives or a modern additive package that burns with low ash content.

@Tobias: Thanks. Unfortunately, you sent me the link to the datasheet, which I already have. ...and then there's also the oil brand that links to Castrol for the datasheet because it's the same oil...

Regards,
Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"Micha"

...and what other oil brand would that be? Or is that a secret?

Hi,

No, it's not a secret. However, I've forgotten (I think it was BP Visco 7000 LongLife III, but I'm not sure...). Since, as I mentioned, I only found a datasheet anyway, it would have been difficult to compare the datasheets even if I had the exact product.

Regards,
Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"Micha"