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martin119 Guest
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04-02-2005, 13:28 Subject: |
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I thought the braking performance in dry conditions primarily depended on the brake pads.
My brake discs have some dust in the grooves, but as I said, that shouldn't matter on a dry road.
What bothers me is the poor braking performance at high speeds.
I was thinking about just replacing the brake pads, maybe with FERODO DS2000.
I once replaced the original brake pads on my motorcycle with sport brake pads (sintered metal), and the difference was huge. They offered much more precise control and significantly more bite.
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christians Profi-Schrauber

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05-02-2005, 16:02 Subject: |
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What kind of brake pads are you using right now? Brake pads start to release gas under high stress. This gas then acts as a lubricant, which reduces friction. The holes in the brake disc and the grooves in the Powerdisc are designed to vent this gas, thereby reducing the loss of friction. Gruß Christian
A6 BPP, Ex-A6 AKN (Gurke), Ex-Audi100 92 AAT (5Zyl.)
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07-02-2005, 6:58 Subject: |
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I believe the brakes currently have ATE brake pads. I also notice every time I drive a different car how poorly mine brakes, and even my girlfriend's 1992 Mazda 323 brakes better. I just ordered some FERODO DS2000 brake pads for fun.
Okay, I'll also go ahead and change the brake fluid.
Let's see what it brings.
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christians Profi-Schrauber

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07-02-2005, 16:51 Subject: |
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If it's really the ATE pads, then the situation is clear. I threw them away after only 3000 km because the braking performance was disastrous. We've already discussed this topic here: https://community.dieselschrauber.org/en/viewtopic.php?t=8141. Something like that should be banned. However, they might still just barely meet the approximately 5 m/s² that the legislator requires for the vehicle; I would have to check the exact value. Gruß Christian
A6 BPP, Ex-A6 AKN (Gurke), Ex-Audi100 92 AAT (5Zyl.)
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wolle Blaumann

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01-03-2005, 0:05 Subject: |
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Okay, I also have the PowerDisk brakes because I wanted to see if it would improve the "panic braking" issue... but with my C4, there hasn't really been much of a change. I do drive very cautiously, though. Still, I notice that there's a slight delay before the brakes actually engage and provide effective stopping power. The brake pads are all from ATE... I'll change that when they need replacing. Recently, I unfortunately had to go to the eye doctor... my neighbor drove me there in my car... and he immediately asked me if my brakes were "gone." That really made me think. A few days later, I took all four wheels off and thoroughly inspected the brakes. Everything was fine. The pads and rotors still have at least 50% life left. Everything moves freely, and I recently replaced the brake fluid as well. There's definitely no air in the system. Just some extra information.
"Next time, I'll be testing different types of brake pads with the same rotor type. It will take a little while though... I currently have 90% brake pad life remaining. And with my driving style – cruising, slow driving, whatever you want to call it – I probably won't be replacing them this year."
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Wool. 2018er A6 Avant Allroad, 3.0 Bi-TDI mit prima Ausstattung
96er A6 C4 Avant TDI, 2.5er AEL,6 Gang, Serienleistung, aktuell 615.000KM
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01-03-2005, 14:42 Subject: |
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Hello Wolle,
If your neighbor is already asking if your brakes are worn out, that should give you something to think about.
Even if you only describe your driving style as 'crawling' and 'cruising,' you'll hardly let 'Tuckers' (presumably referring to a specific type of vehicle or driver) overtake you on the Autobahn.
What I mean is, if you have a braking distance that's only 6 meters longer at 100 km/h compared to when your brakes are working properly, that means you're playing with your health a little bit.
For you, this means that you will either be standing still with functioning brakes immediately before the obstacle, or (with only 6 meters more braking distance) you will be hitting it at more than 30 km/h.
I believe you can figure out which option is cheaper without using a calculator.
Please give me your license plate number so that I can always be sure that you are not driving behind me.
Regards, Golfchriss.
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wolle Blaumann

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01-03-2005, 15:44 Subject: |
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@Golfchriss
Nope, nothing's working with the license plate.
Possibly, I didn't express myself clearly... it was wet when my friend drove, and he wasn't familiar with the "launch control" feature. If the car then decelerates after the "launch control" sequence, it definitely does so in the way it's supposed to.
My inspection was purely a precautionary measure. I probably should have explained that more clearly... sorry.
If you still wanted my license plate right now, please ask the other 100,000 Audi drivers who also have the "sudden fright" problem to provide their license plates as well. Then your journey will never be boring because you can always be looking for a "familiar" license plate.....  (just kidding...).
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Wool. 2018er A6 Avant Allroad, 3.0 Bi-TDI mit prima Ausstattung
96er A6 C4 Avant TDI, 2.5er AEL,6 Gang, Serienleistung, aktuell 615.000KM
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01-03-2005, 16:30 Subject: |
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@Wolle
touché
Regards, Golfchriss.
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wolle Blaumann

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01-03-2005, 23:04 Subject: |
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@Golfchriss
*cheeky grin*
Best regards, and don't let it get to you...
Wool. 2018er A6 Avant Allroad, 3.0 Bi-TDI mit prima Ausstattung
96er A6 C4 Avant TDI, 2.5er AEL,6 Gang, Serienleistung, aktuell 615.000KM
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